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bookem
Posted - 21 April 2017 13:44
So someone has just murdered however many and it's jokes about what he shouted first that are "making matters worse".

It's like the Holy Grail stoning scene all over again.
Osama
Posted - 21 April 2017 13:45
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its just a rubbish line
🐝 buzz
Posted - 21 April 2017 13:54
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It's a twap.
Barnsbury
Posted - 21 April 2017 13:56
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I hadn't heard "Alan's snackbar" before, and I confess it made me chuckle.

It isn't really for me to say, but I don't think it should be taken as insulting to Muslims generally. Surely it is intended to be insulting specifically to people who think that the greatness of Allah is a good reason to run tourists over with your Hyundai.
Likes to eat cheeseburgers
Posted - 21 April 2017 13:58
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Have you considered pulling that stick out of your arse and lightening up a bit?

What next? You going to get all uppity when someone refers to a traveller as a 3.14key?
Shami's Chakra botti
Posted - 21 April 2017 14:00
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bookem,
a few points.
1. It's the Life of Brian stoning scene
2. Fetchez la vache
3. That is all.
Mutters
Likes to eat cheeseburgers
Posted - 21 April 2017 14:00
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It isn't really for me to say, but I don't think it should be taken as insulting to Muslims generally.

Who cares if it is insulting to Muslims?

People of all kinds make insulting comments all day about all sorts of things. They're words. People need to toughen up a bit.
Shami's Chakra botti
Posted - 21 April 2017 14:03
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To burger, I happen to think that the answer to this difficult stage of social history is to re-establish a culture of tolerance and respect not use bad events as a justification for blowing those principles further away.
bookem
Posted - 21 April 2017 14:04
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Yes - that's the one.
Shami's Chakra botti
Posted - 21 April 2017 14:09
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Booko - it does have a touch of "all I said was that bit of halibut was good enough for Jehovah" about it. I'll concede that.
But I think this line "It isn't really for me to say, but I don't think it should be taken as insulting to Muslims generally" is more resonant of the Sermon on the Mount / Blessed are the Cheesemakers scene. Obviously that is not meant to be taken literally. It refers to all manufacturers of dairy products.
Brad's big radioactive donger
Posted - 21 April 2017 14:09
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Reader comments on the internet eh? What a fvcking outrage.
minkie
Posted - 21 April 2017 14:09
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It is to belittle the agressor.
Like when the Videos were shown of terrorists delivering their diatribe after they had beheaded a hostage - imitating the pointy -finger hectoring ( right hand at shoulder height jabbing downwards)

But I agree this phrase you mention stinks of ignorance and I find it offensive
Brad's big radioactive donger
Posted - 21 April 2017 14:11
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Which bit of history were we more tolerant and respectful in please?
Fosco
Posted - 21 April 2017 14:54
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People of all kinds make insulting comments all day about all sorts of things. They're words. People need to toughen up a bit.

Is this what you say to the proprietor of your local "paki shop" when he complains about your reference to the "yids" next door? Propriety of Alan's snackbar aside, that comment is not correct in the context of certain types of insult.
Likes to eat cheeseburgers
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:08
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minkie

You find it offensive?

Really?

How do you survive a day outside of your own house if you find such thinks offensive?

Fosco

You're going to get your post deleted I reckon. They object here to such offensive, hurtful language apparently - unless the insults are aimed at old people, Brexit voters or Tory voters - in which case you can seemingly write whatever you like.
Miss T!
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:14
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Lol

But I agree it's inappropriately intolerant

If that's a thing??
Shami's Chakra botti
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:24
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Brad raises quite a difficult exam question... I don't know for sure. Let's build up to an answer, by exclusion.
My sense of history leads me to see the most aggressive age of intolerance to be far back in the mists of time when you just saw all other people as threats to your prospect of continued life so killed in order not to be killed. so let's park that and step over it, and over the Roman times and Barbarian hoards and start with the period covering pretty much the 11-15th Century AD. The Crusades, when Christian "soldiers" (now we would call these Reverse Jihadis no doubt) prompted by the Latin Church, travelled to the Holy Land to slay the infidel and claim Christ in the name of Mediterranean Church leaders and northern European Monarchs.
A dark period of intolerance.
Then charge through the Empire building periods of the industrial revolution where Johnny Foreigner was seen as either a potential slave or an obstacle to ownership and control and then the Edwardian times and two Wars.
But then, pop out into the early middle 20th Century and oh, look. Peace, Human rights movements, civil liberties, moderate and tolerant politics -the soft left and the wet pre-Thatcher Tory. OK, I have my answer. Here you go: 1963.
Miss T!
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:01
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Terrible spacing ^^^ naughty Muttz.

Shami's Chakra botti
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:05
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you were lucky to have any returns on the end of some of those sentences. it was all one block initially just as a punishment.
Barnsbury
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:11
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aside from any moral arguments, being rude is an inefficient method of conducting social interactions. If I go into my local pub and ask the barman for "a pint of Stella please khuntiechops" I am unlikely to get the pint of cold gassy lager that I requested.
I am Cyprian
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:14
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IT'S ALL PART OF THE EPIC BANTZ AND IF YOU DON'T GUFFAW YOU'RE A CUCK SNOWFLAKE.

AND IF ANYONE IS OFFENDED, THEY NEED TO GET A LIFE AS WE SORTED OUT RACISM IN THE 1960S. IT'S GONE NOW. THERE IS NO PREJUDICE ANY MORE. JUST CUCK SNOWFLAKES. LIKE YOU. CURRY MY YOGHURT.
Miss T!
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:19
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Heh

What's a cuck??

I feel like a melting snowflake this afternoon tbf
I am Cyprian
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:23
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DON'T GOOGLE THAT FROM A WORK DEVICE.

IT'S RUDE, BUT IT'S BECOME BRIEBART SLANG FOR "YOU ARE NOT AS ALPHA AS ME, AS I OWN A TRUCK AND A GUN".

Third Half
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:23
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I think some (many?) people deal with a grim situation (not necessarily only terrorism) but means of jokes and black jokes.

From Bairweather's cartoon of soldiers sheltering in a rain-filled shell hole "well if you knows of a better 'ole, go to it" to one story I heard of a squaddie who lost a leg to an IED in Ulster...his mates turned up to see him in hospital with a packet of those wine gum figures ...but each one had a leg bitten off.

And of course some people are just cynical twats.
Barnsbury
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:31
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a "black" joke? is that not a bit, well, you know . . . ?