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Brad's big donger
Posted - 21 April 2017 14:54
This is sure to work
215 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 21 April 2017 14:57
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God, does she ever stop?

I bet her (third) husband is happy she's out of the house.
Osama
Posted - 21 April 2017 14:58
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apaz neil and widders ripped her a new one on this week last night
215 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:04
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She'll be oblivious to their criticism, rock solid in her self-righteousness.
Osama
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:06
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but its all about constitutional process....
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:06
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Am I missing something here? She's allowed to campaign for anything she likes and she's allowed to fundraise and people are allowed to donate.
215 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:07
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And I'm free to criticise her.
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:08
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Yes, but I don't see how your criticism is relevant to anything. Personally I'd take it as a compliment.
The liB Dems
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:09
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Stop ruining the echo chamber Anna, the snowflakes have feelings.
Brad's big donger
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:09
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I agree Anna I think as a constitutional crusader she is absolutely entitled to do this and risking other people's money is a very good idea even if she may not convince every last single brexiter that she has their interests rather than her own at heart
The liB Dems
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:10
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sorry, my mistake, they aren’t ‘snowflakes’, when they get cross and stamp their feet and resort to personal attacks it’s 'different' to when the millennials get cross.

Not sure how.

But it is.
old git roundabout
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:11
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they did indeed. Biggest attention seeker since Horlick.
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:11
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She doesn't need to convince Brexiters, Brad. She just needs to convince remain voters and people who didn't vote last time but now wish they'd got their arses out of bed to go to the polling stations and vote intelligently.
diceman
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:14
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I wouldn't mind being a millionaire former model.

she should stand for the lib dems


Brad's big donger
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:15
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Oh I see she needs to preach to the converted. Very good idea.
Brad's big donger
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:16
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I might ask the electoral commission what they think about all of this
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:17
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No, she needs to get the converted to vote in a way that ensures their interests are actually represented in Parliament. Which they currently aren't. Do keep up.

At least 16m forgotten remain voters' votes are currently up for grabs.
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:18
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Electoral Commission?

Lollercopters.

If they couldn't stop the official leave campaign from telling outright lies to the electorate, good luck to them stopping Gina Miller from pursuing a legitimate and entirely lawful campaign of her own.
Brad's big donger
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:21
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She's going to have report every penny spent to the electoral commission and has put herself above the parapet. I do look forward to reading how she spends all of this other people's money.
Likes to eat cheeseburgers
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:21
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How much of her own £££ has she pledged?
The liB Dems
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:22
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a. she is British

b. diddums
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:22
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Because she does have that right?
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:24
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Oh, and she is British. But that is entirely irrelevant.
old git roundabout
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:25
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they're probably still anxiously waiting for the Emergency Budget
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:26
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Dear me, if I didn't know better I'd say some of you seem quite threatened by Gina Miller.
215 Sleeps To Christmas
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:29
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Threatened? Is she actually standing somewhere then?
215 Sleeps To Christmas
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they're probably still anxiously waiting for the Emergency Budget

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Heh!
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:29
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My best guess is she is either standing somewhere or sitting down.
Osama
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:31
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could be on her knees
Brad's big donger
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:31
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heh at OGR
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:35
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Yep. Definitely threatened.
Jethro is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:35
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And you are a racist scumbag Teclis.
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:35
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I applaud her. She is pissing off all the right people.
The liB Dems
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:37
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I think 'hero' is Lannister? I don't think Teclis was quite in the 'far right' camp.
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:37
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Be careful not to wet yourself, m3.
The liB Dems
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:38
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Sorry, 'alt right'.
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:38
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Yeah I don't think this is quite Tecco's style. Think he was a remainer anyway.
Osama
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:39
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the reason people hate her is she has lied about her motives from day one
Jethro is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:39
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Oh ok sorry. He writes like he's massively drunk.
Likes to eat cheeseburgers
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:42
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Based on Anna's approach (that criticising a target means you are threatened by them) one can only draw the conclusion that Anna is threatened by people:

(1) who understand economics;
(2) born between 1948 and 1964;
(3) people who voted Brexit;
(4) people who vote Tory;
(5) people without a free Labour party provided unicorn;
(6) people without a Labour provided magic money tree.
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:42
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Are you sure about that Ossie? The referendum result would indicate that most voters absolutely love pathological liars.
Keef has political fatigue
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:43
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A brilliant, brave and inspirational woman.

I look forward to her Gong being item 1 on the agenda of the Lib Dem \ SNP \ What's left of Labour coalition government come June 9th.
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:46
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Ah, cheezy. I was wondering when you'd show up.

I don't think criticising someone necessarily means you feel threatened by them. But play the ball, not the man (or woman, as the case may be). Comments about her being female, an immigrant, black, and generally starting hysterical threads such as this would suggest that people are feeling threatened. If she doesn't represent any kind of threat, why not simply ignore her?

But, just to respond more fully to your post:

1) People who understand economics generally urged us to vote remain.
2) Only the ones who vote in a way which threatens the interests of younger generations.
3) Yes, their stupidity is a threat to us all.
4) As above.
5) I've never voted Labour.
6) As above.

Weally Been
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:53
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She ought to stand as an MP

Anything else just seems like s h I t stirring
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:04
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The frothing rightards sh1t stirred over Europe for more than 40 years. Most people didn't even really care that much until they were persuaded that this was REALLY important, and convinced to vote against their own interests.

Seems only right that the other side get to do a bit of sh1t stirring of their own.
Osama
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:08
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I don't believe the campaign had much impact on how people voted
Most people knew either way long ago
Weally Been
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:23
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The anti federalist brigade might not be your cup of tea but they were bona fide politicians on the most part unlike Gina Miller or even someone like Alastair Campbell (same applies to him too - stand as a politician if you want anyone to take your political view as anything other than in his case pointers about PR and spin)
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:27
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You seem to be suggesting that only people who are "bona fide politicians" should interfere in politics. But surely that can't be what you mean. That would be extremely silly.
Weally Been
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:30
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Why?
cardinalwhorly
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:30
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Anna, you need a wider audience. Were that possible we might get leave into 60% or even 70%.
Hank is voting Labour
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:30
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Nothing to add other than to observe Anna is absolutely storming this thread
Sigh of the Oppressed
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:31
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Anna is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 15:46


I don't think criticising someone necessarily means you feel threatened by them. But play the ball, not the man (or woman, as the case may be).

Does that explain why you are for-ever describing people who voted to leave as racist, thick, old, ill-educated, scum but above all, so much less intelligent than you constantly declare yourself to be? That's playing the ball? Mmm, I must try it. It looks great fun.

PS, were the likes of Tony Benn and Michael Foot "frothing righttards" and was the Labour Party's 1983 manifesto commitment to leave the Community an example of racism?
Osama
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:33
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*mic drop*
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:36
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I doubt it, Cardinal. That would require people with above average intelligence to vote for Brexit.
cardinalwhorly
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:36
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FAOD nobody who actually understood economics suggested remaining. Nor could anyone who actually understood economics. You seem to be another bien-pensant thicko.
Brad's big donger
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:37
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Oh Hank declaring Anna the winner must really rub salt in the wounds for her!
cardinalwhorly
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:37
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Most did.
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:38
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Sigh, the leave campaign was based mostly on lies with a healthy dose of racism. Not all parts of the leave campaign were racist, but the likes of Kate Hoey did little to distance themselves from the likes of Farage so I think they are tainted by it.

I have never said that all people who voted for Brexit are all of those things, but you'd be hard pressed to find someone who voted for Brexit who isn't at least one of those things.

People voted for it for many different reasons. It's just that most of those reasons were bad ones.
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:39
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Lollercopters @ Cardinal.

Yes, dear. Whatever you say.
ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:40
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I'm pretty sure this isn't true:

FAOD nobody who actually understood economics suggested remaining
Brad's big donger
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:41
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It was that thick old racist scumbag Albert Einstein who said the definition of insanity is making the same slurs over and over again, but expecting a different result
old git roundabout
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:41
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opposite of racist. They wanted mainly white migrants from the EU to be treated the same as migrants from elsewhere.
cardinalwhorly
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:42
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I'm pretty sure it is.
Brad's big donger
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:42
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Well, we've seen your efforts and we know what side you were on Reggie. Would a scatter graph help you see it better?
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:43
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Yes OGR, of course that's what got the leave vote over the line.

Let's just ignore the knuckle draggers who voted leave so we could "close our boarders" and get rid of all the Muslims so we don't get taken over by Sharia law.
The liB Dems
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:45
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I'm pretty sure it is. '

oh, well that's settled then
Sigh of the Oppressed
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:46
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Annakins: I didn't say you had said they were all al of those things. I was asking you about something utterly different. I was asking how you might reconcile the fact that so many of YOUR posts are ad hominem and yet you can post "But play the ball, not the man (or woman, as the case may be)."

I was also curious to know whether you think the Labour Party in 1983 was full of "frothing rightards" (great to see you avoiding insult, as ever).
cardinalwhorly
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:48
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The British have always been wary of continental entanglements, and for very good reason. They are usually a disaster, as is the EU. If you want to live in a truly free-trading, truly capitalist, open and clean country, you simply can't remain a member of the EU. You're welcome to your delusions, Anna, but the rest of us have moved on.
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:51
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Sigh, not everyone who supports Brexit is a frothing rightard (Exhibit A: Jeremy Corbyn), but the ones who have been incessantly banging on about it since the 1970s like Farage and Rees-Mogg most certainly do fit that description, yes.

Not sure why you want me to answer for the Labour Party in 1983, since I have never voted for the Labour Party and I wasn't born in 1983.

And perhaps we have a different idea about what constitutes ad hominem. If I think someone's views are racist, I will say so. If I think someone's reason for voting leave is stupid, I will say so. What I don't do is bring someone's gender or immigration status or religion or skin colour into the discussion to try and deflect from the real issue about whether or not they have a point. Which is what the usual suspects in this thread have been doing.
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:53
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Goodness me, Cardinal, you're right. Look how our economy has suffered as a result of joining the EU.

*eye roll*
Brad's big donger
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:56
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Why do you only complain about male brexiters though anna?
ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:56
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I was also curious to know whether you think the Labour Party in 1983 was full of "frothing rightards" (great to see you avoiding insult, as ever).

No, but the 1983 Labour manifesto was written by the loony left, who hate the EU for their own reasons.

It's nothing to be proud of to be an extremist of either variety.
cardinalwhorly
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:58
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It has suffered very considerably as a result of joining the EU.
ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:58
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If you want to live in a truly free-trading, truly capitalist, open and clean country, you simply can't remain a member of the EU.

That's not what the enemies of capitalism say.

Tony Benn: "The European Union is the only state in the world with capitalism written into its constitution."
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:59
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Interesting question, Brad. The Brexiters are certainly male dominated, but I have criticised Kate Hoey in this very thread and I'm sure I've criticised the likes of Priti Patel, Andrea Leadsom and Gisela Stuart many times. So your presumption is wrong, but I can see where the misunderstanding might arise.
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 16:59
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"cardinalwhorly
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It has suffered very considerably as a result of joining the EU."


#alternativefacts
ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
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Brad's big donger
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Well, we've seen your efforts and we know what side you were on Reggie. Would a scatter graph help you see it better?


Yes please!

I'll put it with the others: http://mediotutissimus.blogspot.com/2017/01/why-did-people-vote-leave.html
Brad's big donger
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:01
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No you haven't you've completely exonerated her from your charge against all male Brexiters of being are racist
ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
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"cardinalwhorly
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It has suffered very considerably as a result of joining the EU."

#alternativefacts



No, I think he's right. It's a well known fact that the United Kingdom's GDP has declined pretty consistently since 1973.
ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:03
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Brad's big donger
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It was that thick old racist scumbag Albert Einstein who said the definition of insanity is making the same slurs over and over again, but expecting a different result


Mad old Al said a few interesting things. Here's one of them. I think he said it when he was offered the post of first President of Israel:

"Nationalism is an infantile sickness. It is the measles of the human race."

He had quite a way with words, didn't he!
Brad's big donger
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:03
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Heh, I've seen better correlation in the post room's bogs that day after curry night
Siegfreid
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:04
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Yikes - we have on our hands here a real dunce.

The economy of the UK had recovered from being outside of the EEC by 1995, so it took about two decades to undo the damage.

Germany has done even better. That's the rub: envy.

cardinalwhorly
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:04
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Great soundbites Reggie. You ought to be a politician.
ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:05
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yes, I think so too!
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:07
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I criticised Hoey for failing to distance herself from the obviously racist, loathsome Farage. That was a criticism of Hoey, and it wasn't a statement that all male Brexiters are racist.

I'm sorry your reading comprehension skills are not up to scratch, but that's not my fault, I'm afraid.
cardinalwhorly
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:07
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We do indeed have a real dunce on our hands.
Brad's big donger
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:08
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Perhaps a better Einstein quote for Anna would have been"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used to create them".
ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:10
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Btw women and men voted Leave in roughly equal numbers, with one exception: young adult women had a pronounced leaning to Remain which was (even) bigger than that of young adult men.
sporting_zucchini
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:11
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I want to know who Gina Miller's real financial backers are, not just 5000 deluded crowd funders.

I suspect that there are some billionaire tax dodgers involved in this anti-Brexit movement who prefer to remain anonymous to avoid a backlash to their business interests, and let it be fronted by an expendable woman who has already taken some flak from Brexiteers for the UKSC case.

I can guess at least one of them.

Ironically she probably helped the Brexit camp and T May PM get their act together. First by forcing T May to satisfy the consitutional requirement in Art 50 so the validity of the trigger notice is certain, and second by establishing via the UKSC that the Scots Welsh and Northern Irish devolved assemblies don't have a constitutional say in the eventual Brexit agreement.

Result!
ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:11
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Just to show that this isn't an alternative fact, here is the evidence: https://www.statista.com/statistics/567922/distribution-of-eu-referendum-votes-by- age-and-gender-uk/
cardinalwhorly
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:12
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Rather like battered wife syndrome isn't it. They decide to stay even though it's no good for them.
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:14
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"sporting_zucchini
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I want to know who Gina Miller's real financial backers are, not just 5000 deluded crowd funders.

I suspect that there are some billionaire tax dodgers involved in this anti-Brexit movement who prefer to remain anonymous to avoid a backlash to their business interests, and let it be fronted by an expendable woman who has already taken some flak from Brexiteers for the UKSC case.

I can guess at least one of them."


*irony meter explodes*

Who the actual fvck do you think bought the Brexit vote, notm8?
ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
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I want to know who Gina Miller's real financial backers are, not just 5000 deluded crowd funders.


I suspect Mr Soros and other cosmopolitan financial interests will be behind her somewhere. They're fighting the same fight everywhere: in the US against President Trump's pro-American policies, and in the UK in favour of the globalist elite.
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:24
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We must not forget that the Tories and UKIP have never had any wealthy financial backers at all, and Arron Banks is merely a figment of everyone's imagination. And the ultra-rich tax-dodging owners of the tabloid press were entirely balanced and neutral throughout the referendum campaign.
Sigh of the Oppressed
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:24
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Anna: attacks on people for being old, or ill-educated are entirely ad hominem. You do this. And yet you object to those who disagree with you politically doing it.

I didn't ask you to "answer for" the Labour Party. Nor do I see why your age is relevant. What I asked is whether the Labour Party were "frothing rightards (or, for that matter or any of the other insults you liberally bestow on so many millions).
cardinalwhorly
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:26
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Having said all of that, Gina Miller. Phwoar. I wouldn't want to exit her in a hurry!
ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:29
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Anna: attacks on people for being old, or ill-educated are entirely ad hominem.


Talking your own book there, I see, Hal.
Sigh of the Oppressed
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ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:01

No, I think he's right. It's a well known fact that the United Kingdom's GDP has declined pretty consistently since 1973.

Reg - great use of sarcasm. It would be even better if you can name any country in the world which doesn't have a higher GDP than it had in 1973. (Zimbabwe? I can't be bothered to check, but if so, hey, that's Socialism for you)
Jethro is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:29
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No they were frothing lefttards. The anti-EU branch of the Labour Party are the pseudo-Trots who happen to have been in control in 1983 and in 2017, but at pretty much every other time in the modern era have been entirely marginalised in the party.

Whereas we all know the frothing righttards have pretty much controlled the Tories since the beginning of time.
ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
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Reg - great use of sarcasm. It would be even better if you can name any country in the world which doesn't have a higher GDP than it had in 1973. (Zimbabwe? I can't be bothered to check, but if so, hey, that's Socialism for you)

East Timor (didn't exist in 1973). Probably North Korea. Why do you ask?
sporting_zucchini
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:31
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"And the ultra-rich tax-dodging owners of the tabloid press were entirely balanced and neutral throughout the referendum campaign."

Glad you spotted that the Daily Mail supported Leave (yet kept attacking Farage and UKIP at every opportunity) while the Mail on Sunday supported Remain.
Sigh of the Oppressed
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:32
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Anna: attacks on people for being old, or ill-educated are entirely ad hominem.

Talking your own book there, I see, Hal.

Umm, Mx Reg, I wasn't the one attacking people for being ad hominem ...

#Reg missing the point entirely.
ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:33
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You're experimenting with hashtags now?!

I think there aren't supposed to be any spaces in them.
Sigh of the Oppressed
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:38
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ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
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Reg - great use of sarcasm. It would be even better if you can name any country in the world which doesn't have a higher GDP than it had in 1973. (Zimbabwe? I can't be bothered to check, but if so, hey, that's Socialism for you)

East Timor (didn't exist in 1973). Probably North Korea. Why do you ask?

Because you were either:

1. Making an utterly irrelevant (and incomprehensible) remark; or

2. Implying that the rise is the UK's GDP was a consequence of membership.

Your call.

PS You know, I actually thought about specifying countries which had existed in 1973. Then I thought "Nah, no need to add that. Even Mx Reg wouldn't stoop so low." I love it when I over-estimate you.
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:39
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The fact that someone is old is entirely relevant to whether they should exercise their vote in a way which is entirely inconsistent with the wishes of and to the detriment of the young.

The question of whether someone is poorly-educated or of low-intelligence is entirely relevant to the question of whether they should be allowed to make complex economic and political decisions, or whether they really understood the consequences of their vote.

Not ad hominem, then.
Sigh of the Oppressed
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:40
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ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:33
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You're experimenting with hashtags now?!

I think there aren't supposed to be any spaces in them.

Typical fvcking authoritarian Socialist as usual. Even trying to dictate how workers like me space our electrons.
ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:42
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Because you were either:

1. Making an utterly irrelevant (and incomprehensible) remark; or

2. Implying that the rise is the UK's GDP was a consequence of membership.

Your call.


No, I was responding to another poster who was unwise enough to say that our economy had suffered since we joined.

Btw you also can't defend that comment on the basis that it really meant that the economy had suffered compared to a counterfactual alternative because you're Halifax and thsi is a classic case of how-could-you-possibly-know etc etc.
Sigh of the Oppressed
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:50
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ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:42
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No, I was responding to another poster who was unwise enough to say that our economy had suffered since we joined.

Yes Mx Reg, I get that. Which is why I invited you to name a country that hadn't seen increased GDP.

Your response did nothing to counter his claim. Suppose we have had X% growth, but could have had X+Y% growth if we hadn't joined?

I like the cut of this Halifax geezer's jib.
cardinalwhorly
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:52
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The UK economy would have done vastly better had the UK not joined the EEC, EC, EU. There's nothing intelligent about Anna's position at all. She represents the mainstream opinions of people who haven't actually thought about the issue at all, as she herself clearly hasn't. Simply a dummy parroting the nonsense that's been fed to her. Pointless, really.
ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:52
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Your response did nothing to counter his claim. Suppose we have had X% growth, but could have had X+Y% growth if we hadn't joined?

See my second paragraph above. The original claim didn't phrase it as a counterfactual, but in any case you never allow counterfactual arguments to be run so I'm not allowing you to run one here.
ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:52
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I don't think dummies parrot things. Those are two different metaphors.
cardinalwhorly
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:54
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Congratulations
ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
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...and celebrations....
ReggiePerrin is voting Lib Dem
Posted - 21 April 2017 17:56
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Come on Hal, you're a Cliff Richard fan if anyone is!
Sigh of the Oppressed
Posted - 21 April 2017 18:03
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Mx Reg: your second para didn't go to the point - see my use of "Suppose". I'm not asserting that something happened, I'm pointing out that your argument is open to an obvious, albeit unprovable, objection (which puts it in the same category as any assertion that the UK has done better/worse as a result of membership.

Give it up Reg, you're a broken doll.
cardinalwhorly
Posted - 21 April 2017 18:05
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Definitely wouldn't want to 'withdraw' from Gina Miller! She'd get the full BREXIT m8s.
Siegfreid
Posted - 21 April 2017 18:07
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England would have won the world cup lots of times if it had played better football.
Siegfreid
Posted - 21 April 2017 18:07
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a troll
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 18:15
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Dream on, cardinal. As if someone like you would ever get their pork sword anywhere near an attractive, intelligent, successful, wealthy woman like Gina Miller.
cardinalwhorly
Posted - 21 April 2017 18:22
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I would totally do her. You know that I would.
strong and stable my arse
Posted - 21 April 2017 18:46
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Yes, but only in your dreams.
cardinalwhorly
Posted - 21 April 2017 18:53
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Wouldn't mind a bit of tariff-free access there!
Jon Snow
Posted - 21 April 2017 19:07
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Oh look - it's another Alt-righter who can't get a woman to touch his willy.
cardinalwhorly
Posted - 21 April 2017 19:20
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Alt-righter? Alt-right her! Cor, she'd get it right in the Schengen area!
I like straight bananas
Posted - 21 April 2017 19:22
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Even the UK press used to call the UK "the sick man of Europe" in the early 70s. And they were right.
Jon Snow
Posted - 21 April 2017 19:49
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The mask slips?? Isn't it common knowledge he's a revolting little misogynist (with the emphasis on little)?
#lockuptheorangeclown!
Posted - 21 April 2017 20:43
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Tl;dr

Obvs ffs