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NY Bar - prep materials
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Posted - 26 October 2015 19:09
Good day.

I know this will have likely been done a bunch of times but given there's nothing on the board about it, I wandered whether any of you have used the BarBri prep materials (or another provider) and if so, how did you find them? Are you just sent all of the materials or do you download them? Are there online/classrooms tutorials?

What I really wanting to know is how you actually go about the study and whether there are deadlines with the provider along the way or are you pretty much left with a whole bunch of reading materials and left to your own device?

Posted - 30 October 2015 15:43
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I used BarMax - it is much cheaper than BarBri and has much less material (BarBri's approach is to give you absolutely everything and then you try and learn as much as you can. BarMax's approach is to give you exactly what you need to know for the exam, so you need to learn all of it). It's all done on an iphone/iPad using real questions, and you can send papers in to be graded by real people. After I used it (and passed!) I found out about Themis, and that also seemed like a good program.
Mat Rempit
Posted - 21 January 2016 22:37
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barbri is good but its fucking expensive. you will have to work your nuts off, by the way. its a tough exam.

it worked out ok for me because i was a dual citizen, being on the bar got me hooked up with the US DOJ, but unless you have a *very* specific reason, please don't waste the thousands of pounds that doing this will cost you. just isn't worth it, I regret to say.
Posted - 03 March 2016 19:49
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LA while you're correct that you need to have some desire to work in the US NY is not the be all and end all - I know several people who have passed the NY or CA bar and now work in energy in Texas, renewables in CA, or even tech in CA.

ultimately you'll need to be in good standing in a US jurisdiction to be able to get in the door, although many also require a JD too- something to bear in mind.

Mat is correct. it is tough, you will work hard - if you want to do it though you will do it.

Julie- bollox. why as a forrin grad should you expect to take 2 attempts to pass? plenty pass first time especially if you have the benefit of common law system and English as a first language.
Posted - 08 March 2016 17:20
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I used Kaplan a few years ago, as an English trainee solicitor with no previous grounding in US law. They send you several books (essentially one book for each module, a practice book for the multiple choice and a revision book) at the outset. The course then consists of a series of online lectures.

There is a very clear timetable. It is extremely structured in terms of telling you exactly what to do when - listen to lecture xyz on Monday, complete practice essay xyz on Tuesday, on Wednesday do multiple choice questions 200-300 then listen to lecture xyz and so on (although of course you don't have to follow that schedule if you don't want to).

I thought the course was really excellent and would recommend it. I passed first time without any difficulty, although you do need to study (and you will also likely need 3 trips to New York State - once for the bar, once for the MPRE and once to get admitted).
Posted - 07 May 2016 10:39
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Just out of curiosity, why are you guys all trying to qualify in the US? Does it help your career to be dual-qualified?
Mat Rempit
Posted - 12 November 2016 19:21
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dunno about the others. I did it bc i moved to the US after I graduated and needed a job. I eventually ended up back in London and it opened up a few doors, even if it was purely as a sort of 'so tell me about why you did x...' kind of thing. certainly seemed to be the case with banks I interviewed with.

i had a peculiar situation and it worked out for me. unless you have a valid reason to do it though, I would not recommend spending the time or effort on it. I've known friends that were paralegals at US firms on the continent who said they would accept that in lieu of being admitted to the local bar as a domestically trained lawyer. i've had other friends who were well-connected with bigwigs at US firms in London who saw it as a way to get them in the door quickly. if you're from the UK with no connection to the US and no sound financial reason to do it (e.g. if your becoming a practicing attorney is conditional upon being qualified in one jurisdiction, even if not E+W), your money and effort are better spent elsewhere.