Duckie m8, fighting for their lives might be an overreaction. Press are saying the evidence points to less severe illness and those hospitalised prob have an underlying health condition/comorbidity. Interested in our medical bredrens views on this...
Dux as the community approaches higher percentages of vaccination you’d expect a corresponding higher number of vaccinated people hospitalised by weight of sheer numbers when comparing both pools. The fact that 60% hospitalised are unvaccinated when vaccine take up is so high means that the vaccination is working incredibly well.
Let's say you have 1,000 people of which 950 are vaccinated and 50 who are not.
Say 15 people are hospitalised.
Of those groups 10/950 of the vaccinated are hospitslised and 5/50 unvaccinated are hospitalised, so 2/3 of hospitalisations are vaccinated.
Notwithstanding that would mean the hospitalisation rate of unvaccinated is 10% whereas in the vaccinated it's only 1%. That would also give vaccines a 90% efficacy rate against hospitalisation even though 2/3 of patients in hospital are vaccinated.
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Not one of you would still have a job if you did this.
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Yeah that's a pretty major thing to get wrong.
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No wonder clergham gets it so mentally wrong if this is the bollox in charge
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Easy slip of the tongue tbf.
But that means 40% have had a jab? WTAF!?
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What did you expect, Dux? They're vaccines not magic.
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The actually relevant figure is what proportion of double vaccinated + 2 weeks are admitted. Single jabs aren’t that relevant
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Plus you don’t know how many of the 40% have only had one jab or the 2nd jab recently.
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Even if all 40% have had just one jab, that's a sh*t load of partially vaccinated people fighting for their lives in hospital.
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I assumed something like 90%+ would be unvaccinated.
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Is this hospitalisations "from" Covid, or "with" Covid?
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Good point.
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Are they actually fighting for their lives tho?
Threshold for admissions is lower, stats are shorter, people are less sick than a year ago
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Duckie m8, fighting for their lives might be an overreaction. Press are saying the evidence points to less severe illness and those hospitalised prob have an underlying health condition/comorbidity. Interested in our medical bredrens views on this...
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Chilling on a hospital bed with an oxygen mask.
While feelingchill weeps for you at home.
It's not a bad place to be.
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None of that is relevant to the chief science officer believing this data was perfectly plausible
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Dux as the community approaches higher percentages of vaccination you’d expect a corresponding higher number of vaccinated people hospitalised by weight of sheer numbers when comparing both pools. The fact that 60% hospitalised are unvaccinated when vaccine take up is so high means that the vaccination is working incredibly well.
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Not sure I agree with that dimi, he is confirming that 40% of all people hospitalised by covid had already been fully vaccinated.
Agree though that there will come a point when almost everyone who dies "with covid" will have been jabbed.
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Dimi is correct. Learn 2 Bayes.
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lest we forget, sun tzu sed:
95% effective means 5% ineffective
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Let's say you have 1,000 people of which 950 are vaccinated and 50 who are not.
Say 15 people are hospitalised.
Of those groups 10/950 of the vaccinated are hospitslised and 5/50 unvaccinated are hospitalised, so 2/3 of hospitalisations are vaccinated.
Notwithstanding that would mean the hospitalisation rate of unvaccinated is 10% whereas in the vaccinated it's only 1%. That would also give vaccines a 90% efficacy rate against hospitalisation even though 2/3 of patients in hospital are vaccinated.
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