How are these still so common? If I was being paid hundreds of thousands a week I’d definitely spend a few quid on having some burly gentlemen obviously patrolling the perimeter of my house every time I was playing.
young bloke who thinks he’s invincible and doesn’t think too hard
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an attraction 2 v valuable small items which r readily nickable like jewellery
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a fan of houses with big drives and gardens and walls/security gates which ostensibly look secure but in reality once ur over the wall and not afraid 2 smash a window…
And Oracle that’s exactly why you’d hire some heavies well it’s well advertised you’re playing at the other end of the country and unlikely to be at home.
Ooffer don’t think you need much inside information when the team sheet tells you the house will be empty for a couple of days.
What oofer said. I think it’s probably about the number of hangers on who are not exactly choir boys/girls seeing the expensive stuff. I also don’t understand why they don’t have more security, but then the people ‘looking after them’ aren’t exactly renowned for having their best interests at heart. The whole sport stinks to high hell tbh.
And yet it never happens to tennis players. What is interesting is so many have security when out and about, but don't have 24/7 security when they are away from home, where they have posted on insta-sham their flight to wherever. Strange.
If your'e on 200k a week plus, just employ 2 security bods on 50k a year. It is a drop in the ocean.
(1) There are not that many high-earning tennis players. The average mid-level associate in a City law firm is making net net more per annum than the average 50-100th ranked men's tennis player. Tennis players are the barristers on circuit of the sports world.
(2) The very high-earning (top 20) tennis players are not concentrated in one place.
(3) With a few exceptions (who generally end up bankrupt later such as Becker) tennis players and their spouses are not bling bling in the way that the average premiership soccer player is. Robbing their home is not going to generate anything like the same spoils.
Tennis players spend so much time on the road that I assume they have house sitters or similar. Footballers tend to only be away a night or two which is just enough time to check the place is empty or it’s just the wife and kids home and then break in.
And Oracle that’s exactly why you’d hire some heavies well it’s well advertised you’re playing at the other end of the country and unlikely to be at home.
Yes you’ve kindly listed all the reasons that make them prime burglary targets and I’ve offered the solution. My point is that knowing they are such obvious targets why do clubs and players do nothing about it?
yes, and u have completely missed the point that my list, in particular points 1 and 3, have already answered that q
which really should have been obvious 2 u, given that q is the exact q u asked in the first post
so u gotta understand saillaw m7, if u keep asking the same q even when u have been given the answer, u might well find ppl querying ur ability 2 comprehend
Point one explains why some might not to do it but not why clubs do nothing and why players who’ve friends have been robbed don’t do it. You only feel invincible until it happens to someone you know.
Your third point is not applicable to the ones who employ competent consultants to install security systems which is likely many of them. Trouble is the system is no use if it’s turned off because your wife or flunky is still home.
"There are not that many high-earning tennis players. The average mid-level associate in a City law firm is making net net more per annum than the average 50-100th ranked men's tennis player. Tennis players are the barristers on circuit of the sports world."
Not quite. Nowadays anyone in top 150 is making a decent living I'd think. Plus many people come to the sport, rise to top 50, earn 2-3 mil, then drop out.
If you check current players ranked 151-160 for e.g. more than half will have earned more than $1 mil over their career, with many having more years left.
@Barry Here are my receipts: Table here: https://mytennishq.com/how-much-do-tennis-players-make-the-ugly-truth/ Average prize money per year range from 100th to 50th best players is US$351,638 for 100th to 90th to US$708,794 for 51th to 60th. So average 100th to 50th is US$706,035 or GB£520,867.
However, that GB£520,867 gross before all the costs that a tennis player at that level has, e.g. travel costs of being on the road 8-9 months of the year, coach, fitness coach, etc. Any player in the top 100 has a coach. That costs quite a wedge. So net taxable income is likely something in the GBP£300-350k, depending on economies. I don't think 100th to 50th ranked players are picking up anything material in terms of sponsorship earnings - maybe just getting free kit. They're not doing Patek Philippe ads that's for sure.
I've read interviews with Liam Broady where he's talked very candidly about what he makes and how much of it goes in just keeping the show on the road. He's 28 and his total prize money is about US$1m, albeit that he's been in the 200-100 range. He's got maybe six or seven years left. He's not going to end up a rich man: by his early 30s he's going to have to think about that he does for the next 30 years: some players are great coaches (Ivan Lendl comes to mind) but a lot are not.
It's certainly a massive contrast with English premiership where there are 500 players earning on average more than £2.5m per annum.
The other thing is that if a tennis player hits a run of first/second round exits they are basically paying to go to work. Footballers get paid when on the bench which must be nice.
Also even USD 3mill over a 10-15 year career isn't that much overall after taxes and costs.
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Something to do with being tax deductible? Dunno.
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young bloke who thinks he’s invincible and doesn’t think too hard
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an attraction 2 v valuable small items which r readily nickable like jewellery
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a fan of houses with big drives and gardens and walls/security gates which ostensibly look secure but in reality once ur over the wall and not afraid 2 smash a window…
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houses clustered in really obv locations
do the math
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Inside jobs. They’re all fvkcign idiots and completely corrupt.
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And Oracle that’s exactly why you’d hire some heavies well it’s well advertised you’re playing at the other end of the country and unlikely to be at home.
Ooffer don’t think you need much inside information when the team sheet tells you the house will be empty for a couple of days.
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What oofer said. I think it’s probably about the number of hangers on who are not exactly choir boys/girls seeing the expensive stuff. I also don’t understand why they don’t have more security, but then the people ‘looking after them’ aren’t exactly renowned for having their best interests at heart. The whole sport stinks to high hell tbh.
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And yet it never happens to tennis players. What is interesting is so many have security when out and about, but don't have 24/7 security when they are away from home, where they have posted on insta-sham their flight to wherever. Strange.
If your'e on 200k a week plus, just employ 2 security bods on 50k a year. It is a drop in the ocean.
What sails said.
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(1) There are not that many high-earning tennis players. The average mid-level associate in a City law firm is making net net more per annum than the average 50-100th ranked men's tennis player. Tennis players are the barristers on circuit of the sports world.
(2) The very high-earning (top 20) tennis players are not concentrated in one place.
(3) With a few exceptions (who generally end up bankrupt later such as Becker) tennis players and their spouses are not bling bling in the way that the average premiership soccer player is. Robbing their home is not going to generate anything like the same spoils.
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There is also a club rivalry point to it.
No Federer fan is going to target Novax.
But a livarpool fan will target United and Everton players etc etc.
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Cannon, those numbers are simply incorrect. Christ.
Lets sat Golf then, is that the same as tennis players...
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Tennis players spend so much time on the road that I assume they have house sitters or similar. Footballers tend to only be away a night or two which is just enough time to check the place is empty or it’s just the wife and kids home and then break in.
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r u incapable of reading or comprehension?
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Yes you’ve kindly listed all the reasons that make them prime burglary targets and I’ve offered the solution. My point is that knowing they are such obvious targets why do clubs and players do nothing about it?
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yes, and u have completely missed the point that my list, in particular points 1 and 3, have already answered that q
which really should have been obvious 2 u, given that q is the exact q u asked in the first post
so u gotta understand saillaw m7, if u keep asking the same q even when u have been given the answer, u might well find ppl querying ur ability 2 comprehend
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Point one explains why some might not to do it but not why clubs do nothing and why players who’ve friends have been robbed don’t do it. You only feel invincible until it happens to someone you know.
Your third point is not applicable to the ones who employ competent consultants to install security systems which is likely many of them. Trouble is the system is no use if it’s turned off because your wife or flunky is still home.
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You might also find that your cunning answers are not as clear as you think they are.
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ffs 🤦♂️
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"There are not that many high-earning tennis players. The average mid-level associate in a City law firm is making net net more per annum than the average 50-100th ranked men's tennis player. Tennis players are the barristers on circuit of the sports world."
Not quite. Nowadays anyone in top 150 is making a decent living I'd think. Plus many people come to the sport, rise to top 50, earn 2-3 mil, then drop out.
If you check current players ranked 151-160 for e.g. more than half will have earned more than $1 mil over their career, with many having more years left.
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@Barry Here are my receipts: Table here: https://mytennishq.com/how-much-do-tennis-players-make-the-ugly-truth/ Average prize money per year range from 100th to 50th best players is US$351,638 for 100th to 90th to US$708,794 for 51th to 60th. So average 100th to 50th is US$706,035 or GB£520,867.
However, that GB£520,867 gross before all the costs that a tennis player at that level has, e.g. travel costs of being on the road 8-9 months of the year, coach, fitness coach, etc. Any player in the top 100 has a coach. That costs quite a wedge. So net taxable income is likely something in the GBP£300-350k, depending on economies. I don't think 100th to 50th ranked players are picking up anything material in terms of sponsorship earnings - maybe just getting free kit. They're not doing Patek Philippe ads that's for sure.
I've read interviews with Liam Broady where he's talked very candidly about what he makes and how much of it goes in just keeping the show on the road. He's 28 and his total prize money is about US$1m, albeit that he's been in the 200-100 range. He's got maybe six or seven years left. He's not going to end up a rich man: by his early 30s he's going to have to think about that he does for the next 30 years: some players are great coaches (Ivan Lendl comes to mind) but a lot are not.
It's certainly a massive contrast with English premiership where there are 500 players earning on average more than £2.5m per annum.
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The other thing is that if a tennis player hits a run of first/second round exits they are basically paying to go to work. Footballers get paid when on the bench which must be nice.
Also even USD 3mill over a 10-15 year career isn't that much overall after taxes and costs.
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