Melania

Is this the one that attended a migrant children's detention centre with a jacket that said "I really don't care"? 

 

She promotes and legitimises trump for a bit of extra money. She can fvcking line up for the guillotine with the rest of his enablers.

Hard to care about a woman as rich and as ruthless as she is even if she's got her personal challenges.

That "who cares?" Jacket is the main thing I associate with her now

‘husband who will throw hundreds of millions at ensuring she never sees her son again.’ 

I have no idea where you get any sense that Trumo gives one shit about his kids.

He never fought either of his other ex wives for custody of his other crotch goblins .. 

 

 

Obvs nothing has yet caused the Christian right to desert him but you have to wonder how they will manage the few appearances she’s doubtless contracted for in the rest of the year.

They Christian right have given up any pretence of caring whether Trump has a soul. 

 

Trump could openly come out as the Devil, host televised orgies in Maralago, snort cocaine off a dead baby and spit roast Jesus with a bisexual goat and they wouldn't care. 

 

He doesn’t care about his kids but comes across as a baby who’d have a total tantrum if she left him and that in part cost him the election.  He’s just vindictive.

I can’t believe anyone actually thinks Trump is a Christian. He’s useful to them so I guess they decide to play along for the greater good (as they see it). Biden actually seems to be a Catholic but I don’t understand how he can reconcile that with supporting abortion. But I’m not embedded enough in the Catholic psyche to take it further. 

she is as evil as he is and only slightly more intelligent.  Questions really do need to be asked about her immigration status, how did she get an Einstein visa?

Barron is 18 now, he can do what he likes.

‘Biden actually seems to be a Catholic but I don’t understand how he can reconcile that with supporting abortion.’ 

Easy. 

He understands that there is a separation of church and state and respects the law.

One can have a personal religious beliefs  and also think others are free to have their own beliefs and values and  the right to live in a non theocratic state. 

 

I don’t know Scylla. Most Catholics I know are wholly opposed to abortion. Biden has said he supports the right to chose - that’s his belief. He hasn’t said he’s personally against it but supports the right for the reasons you say. Given he’s a regular churchgoer and seems to have been a faithful husband (unlike Trump) I can only imagine he’s thought of it from time to time and probably spoken to senior Catholics about it. 

The goat thing would be ok in the US but spit roasting Jesus would put a few people off.

Most catholics I know are pretty lapsed so have no problems with abortions or birth control.

“Most Catholics I know are wholly opposed to abortion“

Crypto  have no idea how many is in your sample m8 but, as a Catholic living in the UK , all I can say is that outside of the clergy and nuns and a tiny tiny group of ultras (that have equivalent in all organised religions) 99% of UK catholics I know recognize the right to abortion as a public health “good”  and are not “wholly opposed to abortion”

Sure there’s going to be a range of opinions on term limits but to imply there is any kind of desire by UK Catholics to support an abortion ban is utterly absurd 

In fact I’d say that numerically the core movers of fringe UK politics for an abortion ban comes from evangelical CofE/Protestant types that have been exposed to some Septic funded bollox on this subject 

HTH

 

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Wrestlemelania

I dunno Crypto.

I don’t actually think that many Catholics are  ‘hardcore’ any more.  

Certainly not here in Oz they aren’t But to be fair i’ve not been near a church service in over 30 years so… wouldn’t have a clue what they talk about these days. 

even hardcore Catholic countries like Spain, Italy and Ireland allow abortion in certain circumstances now.. 

 

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I have a new fundraising idea for the Donald.

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I would pay $100,000 to film Donald playing girl number 2 in a remake of one cup two girls. 

Provided Lindsay graham  was girl 1. 

 

I haven’t heard of  that before so might otherwise have googled “ one cup two girls “ but TBH I doubt it will outperform the picture Scylla just painted so I’ll resist chz

I'm a Catholic, grew up surrounded by them.  I can say for certain that most Catholics I know are ok with abortion, particularly on medical grounds.

Savita Halapanavar changed everything in Ireland, despite the American funded "pro life" lobby and their graphic pictures and protests on Kildare Street in the years running up to the last referendum.

Interesting. I only know 3 Catholics well enough to have discussed it with. They’re all anti-abortion but are ok with pre-marital sex and same sex relationships. 

My knowledge of religion is pretty limited so I’m pleased to read what I’ve learned on this thread.