"Proof of life" video of one of the October 7th hostages...

Hamas have released a proof of life video of a young man who was taken on October 7th, whose arm is missing below the elbow, with the result an obviously hacked amputation.  It is absolutely heart breaking.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/24/middleeast/israeli-american-hostage-…

For the record, because it seems a requirement that you qualify any expression of horror at what happened on October 7th with a parallel condemnation of the Israeli "response" - nothing justifies the Israeli's indiscriminate murder of tens of thousands of Palestinians, and effective condemning to death of tens of thousand of others.  It is possible, if you are a reasonably normal human being, to hold both positions without difficulty.

 

they're using vets down in the tunnels to do the medical work. I heard the brother of the girl whose foot was reattached the wrong way around by a vet speaking a few weeks back. He had surgery without any form of painkiller and was told he'd be killed if he made any noise whatsoever during the process.

I wonder what it was that made you decide to bring awareness to this story yesterday - your first thread for a while and, from a quick check, your first ever thread on the subject of Israel/Gaza. 

You claim in your OP that you are able to hold both positions without difficulty (though I have to say the insincerity of “For the record” and “because it seems a requirement…” is palpable). And yet, no apparent concern earlier in the month for the Palestinian prisoners who had to have amputations because of IDF handcuff/restraints being too tight which caused infection which was ignored by the IDF despite the prisoner’s pleas: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-04-04/ty-article/.premium/doctor-at-idf-field-hospital-for-detained-gazans-we-are-all-complicit-in-breaking-law/0000018e-a59c-dfed-ad9f-afdfb5ce0000 

Nor any concern shown for the baby born an orphan when her family were killed in an Israeli air-strike killing her father, sister and her mother who was 7 months pregnant at the time.

https://apnews.com/article/19d46c47465a8bc8bb4c56f5247beccc

 

Can you see that there’s a possibility that you might have a bias towards Israel? Even a subconscious one?

I am posting that you are a whopper Gorlami because I happen just to have read your idiotic post.

There are definitely other whoppers on rof posting idiotic posts. If I haven't specifically expressed concern about them, though, that doesn't demonstrate any subconscious bias against you.

Just means I have a full time job.  

You’ve waded in there without appreciating the full context Spurius. 

This isn’t the first time that Cru has professed to be totally impartial and hold both positions. Her posting over the course of the last 6 months is littered with such statements but her actions here (and on other threads) suggest - to me at least - that there is a bias. And btw, that’s fine but I’m just a bit tired of the bs claims of being impartial where the evidence indicates otherwise.

It must definitely wasn’t an idiotic post, Spurius. There is six months of RoF-posting context here.

And yes it’s fine to be biased- but own it. For example, I’m biased towards the Palestinian cause because they are a highly vulnerable people that have been brutalised over the last 75 years by an occupying nuclear-equipped state, and half of them are kids, and also my great-grandmother was Palestinian who was forced to leave her home decades ago as a teen. 

I’m always very curious to know why anyone is biased towards an extreme right wing government that is currently committing genocide, as I simply can’t relate.

 

And yes it’s fine to be biased- but own it. For example, I’m biased towards the Palestinian cause because they are a highly vulnerable people 

I am sorry what? What makes Palestinians "highly vulnerable" as opposed to other people? Do they somehow bleed more easily than Jews? 

 

that have been brutalised over the last 75 years by an occupying nuclear-equipped state

They have also brutalised themselves to be fair. Hamas really have killed and tortured a lot of Palestinians, as well as indoctrinating children to glory martyrs, and the killing of Jews. And there was no "occupation" of Gaza or the West Bank until 1967, and in reality no "occupation" at all, because Jews had been present in that area long before the Arabs and non-Muslim Arabs.

and half of them are kids

That's just because they don't properly educate their women or allow women to exercise birth control - so basically you sympathise with the Palestinians because they keep their women poor ignorant and pregnant.

, and also my great-grandmother was Palestinian who was forced to leave her home decades ago as a teen.

Your great grandmother? Stolen valour, much? My great grandad was killed by the Germans at Ypres. This doesn't make me biased against Germans.

Also, lots of Jews in Israel were forced to move there from their homes in other Middle Eastern countries, countries in which their families had lived for generations - so if forcible repatriation is the trigger for sympathy, 

I’m always very curious to know why anyone is biased towards an extreme right wing government 

It's not an extreme right wing government.

that is currently committing genocide, 

It's not currently committing "genocide".

as I simply can’t relate

to actual facts?

 

Nope, sorry, you feverish, sweaty, probably unaesthetically-pleasing looking man, I read the first paragraph of your poop and nope, will not be wasting precious seconds reading any more of it. You’re clearly unhinged.

Roffers fall into two camps 

The 'israel have a right to defend themselves but have gone too far in gaza' camp frequented by 95% of roffers including myself 

And the 

'i absolutely hate Israel and they should be extinguished, Hamas are not terrorists or anti-Semitic' camp frequented by gorlami and Hun bun 

One of these sides is obsessive. The other is the 95%

I only base my opinion of roffers based on their roffing 

But of course you are of the opinion that Israel has a right to exist, Hamas are terrorists and anti-Semitic then please feel free to correct the record 

With Gaza being annihilated right now, forgive me for not giving two hoots about “correcting the record”. 

You’re really giving me the ick by the way. Zionist simp vibes.

Lol @ Gorlami who only appeared on here to start posting about the Palestinians' plight bemoaning "sudden posting". At least use your real handle or have a modicum of self-awareness. 

Guys, I’m feeling bad. Sorry RR for calling you a geriatric cheerleader, and sorry Hotblack for calling you poop, and sorry Davos for just generally being mean to you yesterday.

I was in a foul mood but that’s no excuse x