I've been thinking about whether I can make changes that will make things bearable (this would require leaving Scotland at least) but all the pieces are so uncertain.
I think it would be ok to die of something this year, to be honest. Avoid the onslaught.
Most things are a cycle. But what is new is that people now expect security and comfort without having to win it. I think that's brand new in the history of our species.
I guess a new normal I would rate would be if things I liked were open, I still had a job and my pay hadn't been cut by 1/5th but like half of people were still cowardly arseholes so I could just saunter about enjoying things like it was the 80s.
I wonder if the odds of drinking water that once passed through the fuhrers phallus are higher or lower than a moderately healthy adult dying of covid in a given period?
There is shitloads of water about and over your life you will only ingest a tiny %. Multiply that by the odds of the same water having been pissed (vs through sweat or other) by a person who lived for c.56 years.
Seriously m8 - Quite liked your optimism. What happened?
Things will get back to something like normal eventually. Prob early next yr. And quite a lot of changes will be beneficial. There will be big repricings as different things are valued in different ways than before. Lots of creative destruction.
“We are looking at a wasteland where our core values used to stand”
In other ‘no one will die because of lockdown’ news, 80 million vaccinations have been stopped and the WHO has suspended its polio vaccination programmes
Completely agree Clergs. But people who think their own opinion are a replacement for evidence on purely factual matters (as opposed to the policy response to situation) are the thickest of the lot.
Tell you what, GSM - I'll do that when you tell me specifically which bits of the IPCC reports you think are subject to personal bias, and give the evidence for your reasoning.
Do you think objecting to the total destruction of what we knew is akin to anti vaxx?
Do you think it's "crazy" to be sad that we have completely abandoned everything that made life worth living even though hardly anyone will be harmed by Coronavirus?
Honestly? Not even 1% of you thinks "I guess that is a bit much"?
A propos of nothing, the vaccine that was rushed out for sars in Europe was subsequently withdrawn after it was found to cause nerve damage. Scientists found that out.
No, Clergs, but I think suggesting that all scientists can't be trusted on anything, including anthropogenic climate change, because of what is going on at the moment is akin to anti-vaxx.
Ah, GSM I think I see the issue here. You are labouring under the misapprehension that I give a fuck what you think. Clergs has demonstrated over many years that she is highly intelligent, so it was in the past worth discussing topics like climate change with her, but I don't waste my time debating with morons anymore.
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you seem to have gone 180 on that m8
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THIS IS NORMAL
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I'm sad to see you say this laz because unfortunately I believe it too but I find comfort when you disagree in your quintessential optimistic way.
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I've been thinking about whether I can make changes that will make things bearable (this would require leaving Scotland at least) but all the pieces are so uncertain.
I think it would be ok to die of something this year, to be honest. Avoid the onslaught.
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It’s a universal truth that things never go back to the way they were before
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You never step in the same river twice.
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Most things are a cycle. But what is new is that people now expect security and comfort without having to win it. I think that's brand new in the history of our species.
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Yeah pp but you do drink molecules that Hitler weed out once
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Everyone's drinking a lot of that Hitler wee right now
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heh
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This is quite obviously bollox. Human beings are fickle - we complain and moan now but within 18 months things will be substantially back to normal.
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Normal was shit.
hth
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I guess a new normal I would rate would be if things I liked were open, I still had a job and my pay hadn't been cut by 1/5th but like half of people were still cowardly arseholes so I could just saunter about enjoying things like it was the 80s.
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Change is normal. What you are trying to say is the rate of change is not normal. So yes, we will be back to normal shortly.
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Damaging the young to preserve the old is pretty not normal
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The question is how different from normal are things going to be. Not very, eventually, innit
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Yeah
Well
Death of civilisations is precedented
But not normal per se
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Well, panda, we've accepted the precedent that human rights don't exist
So the law is going to fundamentally change for a start
All tests of reasonableness and proportionality are out the window
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As a kid I sensed that one day stupid people would ruin everything.
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Nah. WTF. Is that hyperbowl?
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The entire country has been under severe restrictions for two months and will be for several more at least
There is legislation before parliament that will empower forced two week quarantine of entire streets, schools and offices
In prisons, covid symptoms mean you're locked in your cell and not allowed out even to wash
People have been forbidden to see dying family, even children
It is illegal to practice your faith if that faith requires attending a particular place
It is illegal to run your business
It is illegal to be with your friends or family if you don't live with them
We are looking at a wasteland where our core values used to stand
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I wonder if the odds of drinking water that once passed through the fuhrers phallus are higher or lower than a moderately healthy adult dying of covid in a given period?
There is shitloads of water about and over your life you will only ingest a tiny %. Multiply that by the odds of the same water having been pissed (vs through sweat or other) by a person who lived for c.56 years.
My bet is on covid death.
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I thought it was a metaphor.
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Or something simile
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Laz’s normalcy bias?
Seriously m8 - Quite liked your optimism. What happened?
Things will get back to something like normal eventually. Prob early next yr. And quite a lot of changes will be beneficial. There will be big repricings as different things are valued in different ways than before. Lots of creative destruction.
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“We are looking at a wasteland where our core values used to stand”
In other ‘no one will die because of lockdown’ news, 80 million vaccinations have been stopped and the WHO has suspended its polio vaccination programmes
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Oh good polio sounds like it was nbd anyway I mean it's not like they even shut down the entire world when it was rife
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Wait, is it bad to fight infectious diseases or not?
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It’s very hard to keep up
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I won’t trouble you with my unsophisticated thoughts chimp, off you toddle
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But I didn’t even say which end of the spectrum I thought you were on!
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Sure sure
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I think that attitudes towards self-preservation will change indefinitely, possibly forever.
People will encourage elderly relatives to stay at home generally for months on end during winter.
WFH will become a bit more accepted in some industries but don’t think that businesses will desert traditional office spaces en masse.
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The idea that life should be preserved no matter how shit it is is going to make end of life awful for all of us.
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Think I’ll get my mum to come over for Sunday lunch next weekend. She can get plastered on sherry and stay the night
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We don’t have that idea, FAOD.
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I am going to my mum's next weekend. The incident in the gyle m&s has red pilled her.
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They’ve stopped the what now?
WTF???
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Any true red pill afficionado would be anti vaccination.
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Laz you changed your mind? If so why? Or just stirring?
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Me too. Unfortunately, those climate change deniers are still out there.
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Heh. Yeah we’re all annoyed about the stupid people ruining everything. It’s just tough to agree on who they are sometimes
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True, but I find a reasonably good test as to whom the stupid people are is whether they ignore scientific consensus.
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I think people who think that science can answer an ethical question are the worst kind of stupid
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Completely agree Clergs. But people who think their own opinion are a replacement for evidence on purely factual matters (as opposed to the policy response to situation) are the thickest of the lot.
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There was scientific consensus on thalidomide, right? Otherwise it would never have been approved?
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And scientists are only ever influenced by facts and nothing else?
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Oh, you're one of them too, are you? There's a shock.
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The entire world is in thrall to scientists who are causing us permanent harm. I think that those of us who survive will be the unlucky ones.
So why on earth would any sentient person trust what they say?
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Orwell, could you answer the two questions please. Thanks.
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Tell you what, GSM - I'll do that when you tell me specifically which bits of the IPCC reports you think are subject to personal bias, and give the evidence for your reasoning.
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Are you an anti-Vaxxer too these days Clergs?
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Do you think objecting to the total destruction of what we knew is akin to anti vaxx?
Do you think it's "crazy" to be sad that we have completely abandoned everything that made life worth living even though hardly anyone will be harmed by Coronavirus?
Honestly? Not even 1% of you thinks "I guess that is a bit much"?
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I didn’t say anything about climate change... or were you restricting your general claim to that?
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A propos of nothing, the vaccine that was rushed out for sars in Europe was subsequently withdrawn after it was found to cause nerve damage. Scientists found that out.
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No, Clergs, but I think suggesting that all scientists can't be trusted on anything, including anthropogenic climate change, because of what is going on at the moment is akin to anti-vaxx.
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Yeah https://www.buzzfeed.com/shaunlintern/these-nhs-staff-were-told-the-swine-flu-vaccine-was-safe
I wouldn't take the covid vaccine TBF.
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Ah, GSM I think I see the issue here. You are labouring under the misapprehension that I give a fuck what you think. Clergs has demonstrated over many years that she is highly intelligent, so it was in the past worth discussing topics like climate change with her, but I don't waste my time debating with morons anymore.
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Typical lefty! Sweeping statements, refusal to engage with evidence, personal abuse. Twitter’s your natural home
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