When fresh means off

‘Fresh’ food going grey and mouldy, shoppers warn

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fe5edffe-1e35-11ec-9699-f7cb5224a0e1…

TBH the issue here is utter dickheads eating salad grown in Spain and blueberries from fook knows where. I appreciate it's a massive inconvenience for Jemima to have kids that realise you have to bite a tomato/blackberry to avoid choking on it, but get to fook you airfreighted food fooks. 

The only reason they are "long" in the first place is because major supermarkets put massive pressure on suppliers to extend them, so they are forced down the route of pumping packs full of CO2, adding preservatives and doing anything else in the hope of getting a life changing contract. So if you are sat there whining about it you are just a aunt that refuses to adapt your shopping habits to fit in with what's achievable naturally. How long do you think a fish caught today would last if you put it in your fridge? Then think of the logistics of pulling it out of the North Sea or a fish farm in northern scotland and getting it to a whiny dickhead pen pusher in London with enough time to make a lovely salmon supper for Oscar and Tabitha. 

So if you are sat there whining about it you are just a aunt that refuses to adapt your shopping habits to fit in with what's achievable naturally.  

Why had what was achievable "naturally" changed from what it used to be? And has it occurred to privileged fvcktards like you that not everyone is in a position to adapt their shipping habits?

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"think of the logistics of pulling it out of the North Sea or a fish farm in northern scotland and getting it to a whiny dickhead pen pusher in London with enough time to make a lovely salmon supper for Oscar and Tabitha"

Catching fish in one part of the country and transporting them to another part of the country isn't exactly new

and the U.K. hasn't been self sufficient in food for 200 years, so importing stuff is not new either 

Side note, why does rof collectively hate people with children? 

 

 

lol @ it being an unacceptable middle-class affectation to eat blueberries

u comfortable London lawyers have grown fat and lazy with your reliance on such modern decadence as “the fridge”

bananaman, it's not just air freighted or non seasonal food

it's all the veg we get from Europe - particularly the Netherlands - as well

we got an iceberg and a round lettuce the other day both of which already turning brown when they arrived

I think that ROF hates single people more. 
 

It’s actually quite hard to get a good varied diet as a single person from supermarkets as everything is packaged up for a the family with 2.4 kids. 

"It's my human right to get blueberries from Peru!" Also LOL @ the projection on here - there's no hating other than someone that thinks their food magically becomes shrink wrapped and "fresh" for days after they buy it at best or is wilfully blind to the environmental damage it does at worst. 

 

Where possible in season fruit and veg and UK reared non-battery meat, the latter of which I feel guilty about anyway. I'm not saying I'm a paragon of virtue but I'm under no illusions that there's a hidden cost that comes with all the convenience, but people like Orwell seem to think it's their right to get it. A friend of mine was told by Tesco to get a milk based product up to 14 days' shelf life or FO.

Yes this is another symptom of an omnishambles Brexit, but not an entirely unwelcome development if it draws attention to food choices, which I expect could make a meaningful impact on attempts to reduce carbon emissions.

as always when you get into the detail things aren't so straightforward

eg home grown may be more energy intensive than imported 

I agree that we should all be conscious of food shortages, but efficient mass food production has to be part of the solution, and not something assumed to be beyond the pale

we can't all buy all our food from local farmers all the time 

What Judy said . A few years ago there were loads of tennis players who were complaining about the prices at the local supermarket, when they were buying food for themselves and their team . 
 

we would see them with 2/3 trollies full of stuff. They were right to complain, they were doing their shop at one Bayley and Sage.  

but people like Orwell seem to think it's their right to get it

No, people like Orwell can't leave the house and so don't have much choice about having to buy fresh food online. I know it's not quite so fun to not be able to give sanctimonious rants, but try not to make assumptions if you don't want to look like a tit.

Stopped buying fruit and veg in supermarket and just go to local market where it’s all fresh. 

Discovered all store bought avocados and berries went off within a day. 
 

You're missing the point. I'm not arguing about buying online. You can easily see where the food comes from when you buy online or choose where you buy online, so you can do one madame/monsieur hermit.  

I'm not missing the point, Mr High Horse. I make an effort to buy the least carbon intensive and monoculture based food that I can (which as Heff says is not a simple matter of saying local = good).  But when all fresh food is going off so quickly because of the distribution chain, you can't make any choices to ameliorate that other than to forego fresh food.

And fvck off Dux.

I'm not overlooking it. I'm just pointing out there's a choice in how you deal with that fact. Up to you if you do what you want but then difficult to criticise people that make other choices with environmental or other social consequences that you don't agree with, though as with most things people will exempt themselves because they regard that as legitimate in a "tax the rich" way.