God help the labour party. Food shortages and fuel shortages = open goal for the labour party. Instead Keir Starmer is on Andrew Marr telling Rosie Duffield MP off for saying the above. Please can we have an opposition...
He obviously doesn’t understand or care about the issue enough to take a sensible position, instead of spouting woke bollox. He’s had it. The end. Next please.
I reject all of this nonsense as it is clearly misogynist and I would prefer to stand up for a group that has suffered centuries of discrimination, violence and subjugation versus a subset of the group responsible for said discrimination, violence and subjugation.
All of this reeks of “now that women have the same right as us, how can we put them back in their place? I know! Let’s pretend that we are women!”
No it isnt, men have spent centuries subjugating women
you didnt hear any of this nonsense until the point where equality is now basically enforceable through law. At that point, all these men with fannies came out of the wood work
WUHANWUHAN, whilst I do understand the core of your point about part of this debate generally, remember that the "cervix" debate plays out between "cis" women and those people who were born as girls (and thus have a cervix) but are trans men. Cis men are not actually present in this particular equation.
The "Labour Party" as a parliamentary party is finished. Assuming Momentum retain control they will just become like communists in most European states. An LD type party should plan for 20 years before they have any chance of getting into power.
Fair play to LP activists. They've taken a party that conceivably could have eliminated the Tory Party if Blair had been left to call a 2007 GE, to eliminating the Labour Party in 15 years.
That's one point of view expressed by one person FC. Hardly the same as the thread getting as ugly as fvck. If you are going to be so sensitive as to get upset by one person expressing an odious POV I suggest you walk in a natal woman's shoes for a day.
i mean orwell we’ve been round and round on this before and i understand your views but you think those comments (accepted they’re from biggie, wuhan and ellfi) aren’t transphobic?
imagine if a trans person was reading this thread
why are you trying to defend that (or are you not? don’t want to put words in your mouth but you seem to be downplaying it instead of calling it out?)
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He obviously doesn’t understand or care about the issue enough to take a sensible position, instead of spouting woke bollox. He’s had it. The end. Next please.
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Marr should have asked him if he's got a cervix, the smarmy barrister twot.
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aaaand this is why we lose.
fook i miss Blair
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#labourlosingwomen
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‘He obviously doesn’t understand or care about the issue’
I suddenly have more respect for him
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it is wrong to say only women have a cervix
it is attempting to divide women who don't have a cervix through an accident of birth, and is transphobic
also it's not biologically true that there are only two sexes, there are many sexes.
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Oh god now biggie is a TRA
Makes sense
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just a wind up. i don't actually care, never met one of these ppl.
although i was told to be very wary about thailand as they're very convincing.
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If you aren’t sure whether you have a cervix ask a doctor.
hth
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I reject all of this nonsense as it is clearly misogynist and I would prefer to stand up for a group that has suffered centuries of discrimination, violence and subjugation versus a subset of the group responsible for said discrimination, violence and subjugation.
All of this reeks of “now that women have the same right as us, how can we put them back in their place? I know! Let’s pretend that we are women!”
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Whats a cervix btw?
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this is the stupidest take ever
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No it isnt, men have spent centuries subjugating women
you didnt hear any of this nonsense until the point where equality is now basically enforceable through law. At that point, all these men with fannies came out of the wood work
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Pretty good wind up by biggie- which should make the TRA lot think twice.
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Language evolves.
People forget.
Let’s go back to describing someone with the superpower to give birth as a wombman.
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You massive arse
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WUHANWUHAN, whilst I do understand the core of your point about part of this debate generally, remember that the "cervix" debate plays out between "cis" women and those people who were born as girls (and thus have a cervix) but are trans men. Cis men are not actually present in this particular equation.
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They need to find somebody brave enough to say that they are focusing on policies, not identities.
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TBH he is having to pander to this lot (note the absence of taxpayers in plenty of shots):
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-58702111
The "Labour Party" as a parliamentary party is finished. Assuming Momentum retain control they will just become like communists in most European states. An LD type party should plan for 20 years before they have any chance of getting into power.
Fair play to LP activists. They've taken a party that conceivably could have eliminated the Tory Party if Blair had been left to call a 2007 GE, to eliminating the Labour Party in 15 years.
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reported for hate speech
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I assume Cookie was referring to the fuel crisis.
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they have other things but only women have cervixes
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Well, transmen do too if they haven't had hysterectomy. Transwomen don't either, but then again transwomen aren't women.
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ok unsurprisingly this whole thread has gotten ugly as fvck
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What, other than the suggestion that transrights are a misogynist fabrication, is ugly?
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Chill your life is a heady pirouette from one wokism to the next… …you don’t actually believe any of the shit you spout, do you?
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That's one point of view expressed by one person FC. Hardly the same as the thread getting as ugly as fvck. If you are going to be so sensitive as to get upset by one person expressing an odious POV I suggest you walk in a natal woman's shoes for a day.
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well:
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i mean orwell we’ve been round and round on this before and i understand your views but you think those comments (accepted they’re from biggie, wuhan and ellfi) aren’t transphobic?
imagine if a trans person was reading this thread
why are you trying to defend that (or are you not? don’t want to put words in your mouth but you seem to be downplaying it instead of calling it out?)
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