One of my regional offices has converted the rows of stalls into gender neutral, so you can be in one next to a man while you or he is having a poo.
And tbh this means I will never be using the toilets in that office.
WFH 4eva
One of my regional offices has converted the rows of stalls into gender neutral, so you can be in one next to a man while you or he is having a poo.
And tbh this means I will never be using the toilets in that office.
WFH 4eva
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i’m sorry even without the trans debate - how on earth could anyone give even the tiniest fvck about this?
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lol
lol max
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Because I'm uncomfortable being next to a man who is defecating
It's gross
I was raised to be more comfortable in single sex environments for the exercise of private bodily functions
If you don't feel the same way, I guess I think you lack boundaries in an unhealthy way
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Nothing to do with Trans Folk
Everything to do with not wanting to share private space with men
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Unless the man is my partner or family member
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you cannot think this clergs
you just can’t
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Noted that you "lol" at women having no comfortable space for using the toilet also. What a great guy.
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No. I would kick up a fuss is this happened.
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anyway my office has gender neutral (individual) toilets and nobody gives a kittens
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Yeah it is disgusting
It's one thing to have fully enclosed rooms but this is something else
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Well that has nothing to do with this scenario, chill, but I think you'll find not everyone shares your total lack of need for privacy.
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ally mcbeal was doing this in the 90s and everyone thought it was really cool
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Relieved to see this strawman in the lavs has plenty of ……straw
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Everybody observed how uncomfortable they would be if it happened in real life
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Clergs. Your opinion is worthless. Let chill explain how you should be thinking.
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Re: ally mcbeal, imagine chatting to dancing babies in gender neutral toilets nowadays. Worse than saville
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clergs can have her opinion but it’s wrong and a bit mad
why can’t she just fantasise musical numbers like ally?
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To say nothing of the perma flush guy and his obsession with having a clean bowl, iirc.
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There is nothing more red flag than calling someone else's personal boundaries "a bit mad".
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why is pooing next door to a woman ok but next to a man not?
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For one thing absolutely no women would sit in a stall within earshot of her colleagues and defecate
no one does this
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I'm not a fan of mixed toilets at work. I don't think it's cool for women for obvious reasons.
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Whereas (most) men are gross snd have absolutely no sense of boundaries
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Why is it ok to be naked in a female changing room but not a mixed one?
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it’s not a personal boundary
its going to the bathroom next to an anonymous person who may be a man or a woman and who you probably won’t even see
and you’re refusing to use the toilet over it
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Chill, why can’t you just respect our (women’s) feelings about this?
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so no women ever poo at work for fear of being heard? OK
the noise of a poo must be the same regardless of sex and actually if you talk to cleaners they will tell you that women are generally more gross in that regard
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Don't forget clergs, not only are your personal boundaries mad, they don't even get to count as boundaries
did someone dim the lights?
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presumably you mean male colleagues ms radlett?
no woman has ever defecated in a unisex toilet?
“absolutely no woman”?
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FAOD, I only ever do a no 2 at home and when it’s that time of the month. I prefer to WFH. Chill and transphobics can have absolutely no understanding why.
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I keep having men assure me when these subjects arise women are gopping in their toileting, and yet I use women's toilets all the time and they aren't
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this is not a trans thing judo
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fookING HELL ROF
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yeah, but you seem sure mens are. I use them all the time and they are fine
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I have never used a "unisex" toilet that consisted of partial height stalls with gaps at the top and bottom, and I never would
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what Rog said. the only time we get emails about the state of the toilets, it’s the women’s toilets.
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This is ducking Orwellian
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I don't think I've ever seen a unisex toilet like that actually
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heh has rof autocorrected tr@nnies?
well done piers & m8s
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Yes it does.
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Summary: Women’s laboratories for ladies. I loathe unisex lavs. Ladies have to do stuff that men don’t in loos. And pooing in work loos is gross.
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TRA NNY
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Well that's almost as stupid an autocorrect as sn1gger
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judo your motions are your business but this seems unhealthy
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Tran ny women ARE NOT WOMEN
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Actually I believe we have all three. These came into play after I went to the garden so not entirely sure.
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I like pooing at work. getting paid 20 quid to ha e a shit is awesome
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Sreportmei’mracist is almost ok because it’s a coding error. Trann y is deliberately provocative
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Roger because you are a man. Real ladies feel weird about this.
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HEH at auto correct
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yeah , but I wonder why
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P’n’’m are women haters. Good to know.
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this is not a thread about trans issues
its about how clergs refuses to use the toilet (for any reason) because there is a potential a man might pop next to her (but not a woman, which would presumably be fine)
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*poo
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It's not an autocorrect that makes any sense tho does it
unless piers and maffew obe think transsexuals are all transphobes. Which some at the wilder end of TRA activism think, but it's an extreme view
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Isn't this illegal?
I thought unisex toilets had to be individual enclosed rooms, not cubicles.
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tbf I think uni sex bogs where you walk in would be odd/awkward. unisex bogs like at home essentially 100% fine
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/schoolgirls-rejecting-mixed-toilets-…
Not at all predictable that this would happen.
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cheers thuggy
you going to call me a paedo again next?
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I think it theoretically is. But nobody is going to argue.
I mean I would but it's about six millionth on my list of aggravations at the moment
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who shits in the kazi at work FFS
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Mmmmm uni sex.
Plentiful. Good times.
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Roger apparently
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Roger - it's stalls like you get in the gents, the only difference is no urinals.
So you're walking along chatting with a female colleague or client, both need the loo, both head in to hear each other urinate. Maybe the rustle of her unwrapping a tampon.
I am uncomfortable with that idea.
I would not be uncomfortable with another woman in the same way.
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Chill, if you can't understand why a woman might not feel comfortable having a poo with only a cubicle wall separating her from men, can you understand why she might not want to have a miscarriage with only a cubicle door separating her from men?
Because I have had two miscarriages in work toilets.
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it's not weird to have a shit at work, in a loo, you absolute fooking freaks
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LP there is no point attempting to reason with chill or invoke the sexed differences which mean this matters. That wood require empathy and chill doesn't have any. Not for you or women like you, anyway
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FFS just leave the loos as they were M/F , it has worked for ever FFS. If i desperatley need a crap, which is so rare, I use a pub loo.That said my male friends swear by crapping at the work loo as opposed to home. Don't shit on your own door step and that....
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I'm not totally comfortable with it. ideal world no one is in bog when I use, but if there is, I don't care who
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anna i have used (and currently use) unisex toilets in the uk. they’re completely standard in san fran and washington dc
i would imagine having a miscarriage in a work toilet would be incredibly traumatic wherever you are and no matter who’s around you and i’m sorry that happened to you ❤️
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You won’t poo at work (where colleagues may have pooed) but you will poo in a pub where someone was probably shooting up 20 mins earlier?
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OMFG you shit in pub rather than work. wow
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So fooking disgusting
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@chill faod
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"stupid woman, don't you even understand how you feel?"
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sails will be along soon to tell us he has banged one out over a colleague pissing on him
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tbf ms radlett this kind of dig would have more weight a couple weeks ago before thuggy popped up again confirming how much of a gigantic aggressive bellend he is and reminding everyone you married him
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It would have been 1000000% more traumatic if I had had to use a unisex toilet.
It is notable that this thread is full of men saying they don't see the issue with unisex toilets and yet not a single woman has said they are comfortable with it.
Shouldn't that tell you something?
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just saying
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Listen to women.
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Yes roger, most people don't wanna crap at work, fact. Not least of all in auni sex loo, you madman
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(The kind without penises, FAOD.)
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I adore my husband and have no issue with anyone being reminded I married him
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Lucy I deffo see the issue.
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Not sure what your opinion of my husband has got to do with you giving no fvcks about women
shrug
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Even on the more mundane end of the scale, I have retreated to the ladies to have a cry when shitty (but not as serious as a miscarriage) things have happened.
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Yes, some men do. Thank you.
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Chill's lost it.
Can't wait for another insincere apology.
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And if we had unisex loos I would not feel comfortable to do that
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Good point. Crying in the toilets is humiliating enough even when there are only other women around.
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‘P’n’’m are women haters. Good to know.’
The owners ‘hate women’ because they won’t allow a transphobic slur on the discussion board? 😂😂😂 Ok ok.
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yeah, I see the issue with stalls. none with the other sort
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sure it tells me a lot
though i think what i’m hearing is a lot of stuff about gender roles and how women are supposed to behave in society vs men, and not what you think i’m hearing
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If it's not telling you that you need to start understanding and respecting women's boundaries then you aren't paying attention.
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You don't understand intimacy and privacy
Red flags
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You should just identifying as someone who doesn't find miscarrying in a public toilet distressing, LP, then it'd be fine
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(to be clear - the above was re: clergs and judo and my initial conversation and the “i can’t poo” stuff
again anna can’t imagine how it must have been for you and my heart goes out to you for that)
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ebit is a complete girl about taking a dump at work non-shocka
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this thread is not about trans issues ffs
trans women have been using womens toilets for at least 50 years if not longer
this is about unisex toilets
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Even better, I could start identifying as a man and then next time I want a baby I can do the jizzing into the other person part, rather than the panicked checking my knickers for blood every time I use the toilet and being traumatised by ultrasounds part.
Or is that not how this works?
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