have you ever been attacked or threatened in London?

just thinking about the "1 in 5 Londoners" stat

that's bloody loads

No, but I only go to central London. No-one's going to attack me in the Strand.

If I hung out in residential areas, where the atmosphere is more vibrant, I daresay it would be a different story. 

One guy once asked me for cash and then started unzipping his jacket and muttering about getting his knife but figured he was bluffing and walked off.  Other than that no problems but then on the other hand I don't walk around after dark with noise cancelling headphones that you can assume are linked to a nice shiny phone.

Once. Was loading kid into a car seat and a scrote driving up the residential street at about 40 - I gave him "FFS" look.   He slammed on the brakes got out and threatened to stab me so I bled to death on my kid. Other than that, breezy cool!

a guy tried to start a fight with my partner on the Jubilee Line (West Hampstead) last October but he managed to deflect it with a skilful jolly Celtic chat for several stops (my God those stops were long - every time we arrived at a new one I'd wonder if we should just get off and run but it felt like we had to keep the social soothing spell going or the guy would flip)

this is the most scared I think I have felt in London

touch wood etc

London born and bred- just the once that I can recall. It was a couple of years ago at Chancery Lane tube station where some unhinged guy decided to rant at me “fookin Asians everywhere” kinda thing, he followed me onto my tube carriage and continued to rant, I continued to ignore him and he got off at the next stop. Truly bizarre experience and just generally very un-London-like.

My younger brother was threatened years ago by a group of lads who thought he was looking at them in the wrong way- he was fine though.

 

I used to regularly get an N10 from Hammersmith to Kings X & never saw a thing. Walked up & down Cally Road at all hours for a good few years too, saw the odd hairy incident, but never involved personally. 

The night of the riots, post -Mark Duggan, was probably the most uneasy I've ever felt here. It was wild that night.

Nope.

Someone did spill my pint by barging in to me in the bierodrome in clapham.

As I looked up he had turned around, chest puffed and asked me what i was going to do about it.

Turns out what I would do was to wish him and his boyfriend a pleasant evening whilst giving him a fir. But gentle open handed slap on the cheek.  I think I also said "alright son".

Situation defused.*

*this may have had less to do with my actions and more to do with the fact that looming behind me were the fleshy mountains of big pete and hairy gav, 2/3 of the first team front row

got mugged at the Midland Bank ATM on Oxford Street in 1995, it was about 1am and I was legless drunk, learned a valuable lesson that night.  Take a good look around you when at an ATM when you're drunk BEFORE putting your PIN in.

attacked and threatened no, but have been harassed. 

 

I have also thought I have been lucky as I have lived in some dodgy areas of south london, walked around by myself late at night, whilst pissed

There are a few pretty rough Camden estates around Primrose Hill area. Regents Park isn't too clever, for one, and the ones between Primrose Hill & Camden High St. as you head down toward Euston Rd.

I have been questioned by police about two different murders... One in Walthamstow and one in Kilburn.

The first one was after I'd had a row with the girlfriend, I went out to the car to calm down, dozed off and didn't notice the commotion on the street so was unhelpful to the enquiry, a chap had been stabbed to death just next to my car and I didn't notice anything.

The other was when I was leaving my flat to go to work, there was a motorbike on its side directly outside.  I was a little miffed at this fellas parking but thought nothing of it.  When I got home my flatmate told me the police were looking to speak with me about the bike.  I believe it had been used in a drive by around Paddington.

Wang has reminded me of someone spilling my pint in Crazy Larry's.  Was about to say something until I realised it was Neil Jenkins and the Welsh rugby team who'd lost that day.

Lived with friends just off Green Lanes in the late noughties and in a house of 5 guys 4 of us got mugged at some point. I got a knife pulled on me coming home at about 10pm (I had nothing really on me to give so just got told to run away - which I did pretty bloody quickly) but the worst was my friend got hit in the back of the head which kind of knocked him out and dazed him then taken to an ATM and asked to take out as much as he could get which if I remember at the time was £250. I can't remember exactly what happened but he didn't do it. It may have been they'd hit him so hard he didn't really know what was going on.

He just came back home like covered in blood.

Eddie has reminded me of two visits from the police in the early noughties in relation to a shooting nearby when I lived on the edge of Brixton and someone killing the guy who ran Infernos before it became popular.

heh,

I just remember a buddy of mine (form Legionnaire so not a small chap) who got mugged at knifepoint in Kings Cross, late 90s.  After handing over his money, he ran to a phone box to call the police, as he was dialling the door swung open and there was another guy with a knife.. "oh just fook off!" was all my buddy could say to him.. and he did.

So quite a lot in fact.
PH has seen some real horrors in recent years. The worst effects of cheek by jowl liberal London tbh. But if you make the poor really poor that’s what you get. 

‘much more likely to happen in medium size towns, especially if one is handsome, ineffably cool, and in the company of beautiful female(s)’

Or, if you’re in Sittingbourne, you can read and write 

quite a lot?

I don't think so.  London is vast with almost 10 Million residents.  You have to expect some anti social behaviour in a place of this size.  

And it's not a new thing, just read through the Old Bailey Archive and you'll see things haven't changed much since the 17th Century.

My home town has fewer than 350k people but has a serious gangland problem and many innocents have gotten caught up in it.  I came close to getting into a punch up with a chap in a pub who is now serving life for murder.  You have to know the families and who they're connected with.  The Casey's, Kelly's, Ryan's, McCarthy Dundon's etc..

Loads of times, but only one of them ever escalated into anything.  Worst was getting mugged by three guys but they didn't stop me when I just walked off, and then four teenagers on the tube who luckily turned out to be all mouth.  

It seems incredible to me that 80% of people in London have never been attacked or threatened. 

Growing up in a provincial town this was a regular sight on a night out. You learned not to hang around certain areas and to slip away as soon  things start getting heated. The no go areas weren’t the council estates but the high streets and the outside of nightclubs and bars after closing. You’d still eventually have someone try to start a fight with you.

In about two decades in London I’ve only had my phone snatched and been swung at when intervening when someone was harassed by some drunken racist dickhead (both incidents would have been when Boris was Mayor fwiw). 

Remember a friend being threatened after closing in Cardiff by a bloke with a plank of wood.  A police van drove up and opened the window and tapped the bloke on the shoulder and took the plank of him then drove off as apparently it was now a fair fight.

Sails, you just reminded me of Saturday nights in Limerick city back in the day.  There was only one takeaway open in the whole city when the clubs kicked out, Friar Tucks on Henry Street, 200 yards from the Garda Station.  

Every Saturday there'd be an absolute riot on the street when thousands descended to get chips.  You'd see the cops up the street pretending they saw nothing until it calmed down and then they'd suddenly spring in to action.  Me and my buddies would sit a short distance away to watch the whole thing unfold, very entertaining, came close to being involved a couple of times...

Assume already covered but this, I am sure highly structured, was concocted by a "think" tank sponsored by Ian Duncan-Smith. Funnily enough this "research" is updated shortly before London mayoral elections. 

To get a feel for the methodology, nearly 10% of respondents to the poll said they could get an illegal firearm if they wanted to. 

been here 19 years (jeez) and felt threatened once. gang of lads wanting to try it on but I turned the corner onto the main road and their bravado melted away. Oh and one other time with a mad glint in eye female gang member on the Tube platform spoiling for a fight, but she was easily ignored. Other than that nothing which I think is not bad for Europe's largest city over two decades although of course it would be great, particularly as a dad, to think we shouldn't have to worry about this stuff at all. the snag with the current situ is that while it remains incredibly unlikely anything would happen, the rise in knife carrying means the consequences if something did kick off could be life changing or ending as opposed to more emotional/psychological trauma but less physical trauma

Lived here since 1997, was once approached by someone on the strand, told them to fook off (silly idea really but it worked)

im 6 foot 5 so assume people cant be arsed with me

 

A mad old woman came off the train as I was going into the station in sw London and punched me in the stomach. I was so shocked - I went to tell the station staff and was half crying - they weren’t very bothered and I think muttered about the hassle of watching cctv.  I had to get my train to work so that was that. Otherwise I’ve always felt safe. 

No trouble in London but I've only ever gone in for days/nights out and (briefly) work, not been resident there at any point, so limited exposure. I have done a few high risk activities though like walking alone at night in neighbourhoods known to be dodgy, suspect my luck would soon run out if I lived there given I once got mugged in my "safe leafy " hometown.

 

I do wonder how many people who claim they have "never had any trouble" actually more or less completely eliminate risk of such trouble in their lives eg by always driving/taking cabs everywhere, not going to known rowdy spots on nights out etc. That doesn't make the area safe, it just means you're having to put crippling limits on your life when living there which get talked away as "taking sensible precautions". It's shite to have to do that tbh

Just remembered another time when my brother turned into a street as a guy in a white Range Rover was coming straight at us. Wasn’t the greatest bit of driving but no harm done but this guy chased us around the roads. Eventually we got stuck and he got out of his car and was about to attempt to open ours -   luckily all locked. My bro put foot on pedal and we pelted it down the streets again and hid! Later rang police with his number plate. I think he’d have stabbed my brother - his eyes were wild with rage. 

The UK is a left leaning social democracy and has been for 70 years.  The electoral system sometimes gives a right wing government absolute power but this never reflects the balance of opinion in the country - even during the height of Thatcherism.

The Orange book Lib Dems misunderstood this, thinking that genuine centrists voted for them.  Wrong, the lib dem vote is and always has been centre left, which is why they were so brutally punished for propping up a Tory government.

Finally we will be back to the position where the government broadly reflects the people.

Don't recall ever being attacked in London. Always said that the place I was most likely to be attacked was in my small home town as small townism means there are a bunch of scrotes for whomn that is there only entertainment. 

not me Hammer, back in my 20s i ended up in some ludicrously unsafe places

the sorts with bars on doors and window and "bouncers" with guns

kak it thinking about it tbh

My sensible precautions are just not wearing headphones walking around quiet streets, not getting my phone out in shady places especially after dark and generally having sleeves over my watch if I'm going somewhere shady.  Happily wander round my home neighbourhood so drunk I can barely walk.

Yes, surrounded by a bunch of black lads at 1am just off Oxford Street when trying to get an Uber in my phone, like some of the other posters above I'm also very tall and just pushed my way through them told them to fook off and jumped in a cab. I'd only had a couple of drinks thankfully so still had my wits about me, otherwise presume they'd have tried to take my phone/watch. 

I think I've been abused in most cities I have been too 

London is pretty safe all told 

Like most cities, you should take sensible precautions though 

Been in physical altercations a number of times in many places 

Being over 6 ft and weighing in at over 100kgs of pure solid muscle does have its advantages 

The worst I have had in London is probably sexual assault and harassment from drunk people. One incident with a drunk lady was particularly bad and I considered going to the police 

In the end I didn't. I should have done though but was worried they wouldn't take it seriously 

there's a really rough pub near me, I met a guy in there who told me that he'd been shot in the leg in that very pub a year earlier, showed me the wound. Horror as masked gunmen shoot man in packed Rotherhithe pub - Southwark News

so, I had a friend staying with me and I asked him if he'd like to go to the roughest pub in the area.  He loved the idea so we headed there.  Walked in and the place was all decorated in pink bunting and balloons and there was just young women in it for some girls 30th birthday. I was embarrassed.

Virtually nothing for 20 years in London. 

Once got called a Paki on the street by a random guy walking past. 

Once had some drunk posh bloke drinking outside a pub with his mates pull my scarf off me and hand it back as I walked past but they were laughing so think it was more of a joke. 

That’s it. 

Also a couple of incidents where I chose to get involved so don’t think that counts - eg, once a Deliveroo bike nearly hit me as I crossed the road and I swore at him so he stopped and came back to square off against me and we had a shoving match

Yes. In the Trocadero Center when I was around 14. Me and my brother walking through a crowd and a group of older teens coming from the opposite direction. One of them just popped me with a quick jab in the face. Mixture of shock and fear just meant that I carried on walking. My brother didn’t even see it and I was too embarrassed/shocked to say anything. One of the strangest experiences of my life!!

I was once attacked by an actual blind person (well, legally blind anyway, it became obvious he had some vision)...

Bus stop in London Bridge around rush hour, and this bloke was in a fvck off mood, already getting really arsey, getting ready to be angry / offended at whatever slight he was sure that someone would direct towards him, practically growling at people, even though - for a change - everyone was being really considerate.

He got on the bus, no seats, but someone very quickly got up to give him a seat, and in order to get to it, he had to go around me.  Apparently, I didn't get out of the way quickly enough, because, before he sat down, he cracked me hard across the back of my legs. I literally heard the "whoosh" sound as he brought the cane back to get some momentum on the hit.

He then calmly sat down and ignored me.

It really fecking hurt, and a couple of people near us actually gasped.  I all could do was stand there with tears in my eyes, and wait for my stop because sadly, there is no way to respond to being assaulted by an obviously disabled person that doesn't end with you looking like the bad guy.

I think the bigger question is the statistical quirk that means all roffers are >6’2” and with weights and in such condition to put world champion heavyweight boxers to shame 

Cruella, I'm legally blind, have a white cane and live in the area... I can assure you it wasn't me!

Plus, I don't understand people giving me their seat.. I'm blind, that doesn't affect my ability to stand.  I do however get really annoyed at people pushing me out of the way to get on a bus.  I can't bluddy see you mate!  Don't do that to me!

I lived in Zone 1 for most of the 1990s, walked everywhere, all hours, never any issues.

May be different now of course.  

But I often felt scared after the Friday night disco in the small town near where I grew up though.  There's that great line in John Cooper-Clarke's "Chickentown" re clubs being full of blokes with "murder in their eyes"

 

Neither threatened nor attacked. Was run over but that was my fault. 
I frequented Central London (Strand also regularly Wang) often 6 days a week for circa 30 years. 
Never ever felt nervous. 
Lies. Damned lies and