Cameron on Iran

Cameron couldn't bring himself to condemn Israel for bombing the Iran consulate, phrasing the bombing instead as Israel as a crusader doing good in the world.

Wouldn't say it was a breach of international law. 

Could barely agree that Iran has a right to respond with force. 

Says that the (well telegraphed) attack (killing zero) was disproportionate but won't say that Israel's genocidal killing of 30k Palestinians was disproportionate. 

International law is relevant only when the West wants it to be relevant but it still likes to harp on about Western democratic ideals and respect for the rule of law. 

fook off

Yes, that's geopolitics, you have to actually get on with the people it's in your interests to get on with.  Besides, its pretty obvious what he thinks and has said in private.

 

Surprise surprise, Israel the genocidal aggressor becomes the victim once again, crying and pointing and telling tales “See? We told you these terrorist barbarian muslims want to murder us all- and they want to kill you too!” And the West rallies round it like some overgrown spoilt baby-brat needing a dummy, “yes yes we got you blud, you’re one of us”

I doubt they do any such thing, they are obviously telling them that they should not retaliate at all, because they have no justification for doing so.  However, if it comes down to a showdown between Iran and Israel, there is no question that our interests lie with Israel.  If the Israeli's drop a nuke on Iran that might change things, but till then they are on our side.

What exactly do you think will happen if the UK & US said to Israel 'you're on your own'?  First, Israel will look for other allies who are not us and don't have the domestic influences we have, probably authoritarian allies who will even more facilitate drastic action, and second, it would encourage Iran and its allies in the Authoritarian Bloc to carry on and ramp things up.  Basically, it makes it MORE likely matters will escalate. 

Also the Jewish lobby in the US will abandon the Democrats and make Trump's election far more likely, so Israel will get supported anyway. 

Iran has been stirring things up since the revolution. They actively call for the elimination of a sovereign country. If they get a kicking they fully deserve it.

I think Israel is going to take their chances and deliver it Chuffy, because whatever rhetoric is coming from everywhere else, only the Russians are going to care if Israel does the dirty work that pretty much the rest of the world will gladly see.

And if people want to see double standards in foreign affairs, have a look at the Gulf countries who would be delighted to see the end of Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis but will never admit it and will do little to facilitate it.

By Iran supporters only logic, Israel is now well within it's rights to send hundreds of bombs to Iran 

The west, Jordan, UAE etc is (currently) preventing israel from doing that 

I don't think such prevention will last long and Israel needs to be able to protect itself 

Let's be honest if a country had sent 300 munitions to UK, US, most EU countries, Saudi, UAE, china, Russia, India etc they would find themselves on the wrong end of quote a few missiles 

the dudes who got whacked in the iranian consulate were some of the worst dudes in the world

tug lite as to their f88 or the Israelis’ role in it

the iranian revolutionary regime has no place in the civilised world and regime change should be forced immediately with the senior leaders doing life in aa box in the arizona desert

Let's be honest if a country had sent 300 munitions to UK, US, most EU countries, Saudi, UAE, china, Russia, India etc they would find themselves on the wrong end of quote a few missiles 

Fair enough, but worth asking what our reaction would be if Putin dropped an Iskander on the British consulate in (say) Kyiv and killed a couple of senior officers in The Regiment who were working with the Ukrainians... 

 

It would really depend on whether those members of the Regiment had actively been plotting the destruction of the Russian state and the extermination of its people all in the name of some sky pixie bullshit, wouldn’t it. 

Breaching another country’s sovereignty and forcing regime change is a bit problematic, no Sir Woke? When has the attempt to play “white saviour” ever worked in the past? The biggest threat to the Middle East stability right now is Israel, not some imaginary bearded bogeyman round the corner waiting to nuke it.