Got two of them. Excellent. Roomy but not too big outside. Boot takes three full size suitcases. Interior feels jnbustable and absolutely kid proof.
Advice: get the 2 litre petrol, which has plenty of go - the 1.5l is adequate but a bit thrashy like most of the modern small turbos, and doesn’t make for a great motorway car. Look for electric tailgate and parking cameras if buying secondhand. Also, they look better in bright colours.
I’d like to start a small commercial law firm out in the beltway just so I could drive to work. I’d try to have clients and make money, but driving to work would be the main point. My five minute drive to the station is usually the last enjoyable part of my day, after breakfast with the notorious rambunctious crew
Its bullet proof, has a fair bit of grunt and very decent handling for its size, is very economical on long road trips and can lug loads of stuff about.
Unfortunately they stopped making them when Geely holdings took over and started their journey towards turning Volvo into yet another boring Chinese electric SUV company.
I like their XC90 and were I in the market for an absolutely massive car it would be that or a pukka petrol Range Rover Vogue (not the sport or the velar or any of that shite).
Heh @ amit, me too. Mine is a 2001 y reg bought as a stopgap and retained as it is entirely suitable for all my requirements (except performing a 3 point turn in a road narrower than the M6)
BMW X1. High enough for old people to get in and out easily and happily accommodates a retriever in the boot. Also diesel so I can enjoy 47mpg until electric cars get a bit cheaper.
2012 Disco and I love it. It is creaky, expensive and horrible for the polar bears, but F me it is magnificent. It does everything, elegantly. Will drive it into the ground and be heartbroken when it is gone.
Wife has a Skoda Karoq which isn't too shabby. I think it is very similar to the Seat Ateca etc, all built with a similar platform. Probably worth testing all of those and seeing which one floats your boat.
Cost next to nothing (and now worth easily twice what I paid for it 5 years ago - still not much tbh).
Goes like a bat out of hell (well, almost) when I'm looking for a gap in traffic, sits comfortably on the highway, handles shitty dirt roads very well.
Carries dog, bike, skis or any other enormous amount of stuff in the back, or 7 people at a squeeze.
One of my colleagues is insanely jealous of it.
And in 2 years it will be eligible for historic registration so I'll save 90% on rego.
But tbh I'd still love a BMW 1 Series M. Although the dog wouldn't like it as much.
Porsche Taycan 4S. Also the best car I've ever had. On the one hand love it, and love the fact the taxpayer is paying for 45% of it. On the other hand, realise it's probably the best car I'll ever have for the same reason, and that it will be downhill from here.
It's insanely fast acceleration when you want it to be, and sporty to throw round corners, but also behaves like a normal family car with two boot spaces of decent size when you want sedate. Range is good, so gateway drug to all-electric cars in future. Also would never go back from automatic cruise control, which is so stress-relieving on commutes / motorway trips.
Maybe you could fit a dog in the back of a Taycan.
But if the dog puked chocolate vomit in the back of a Taycan, you'd pull over so you could desperately try to mop it up, meanwhile poor old Fido would die.
Whereas in my 23 year old Volvo wagon, when the dog puked chocolate vomit I felt no qualms about letting the stain set while we continued on to the vet.
Caterham 7 CSR. Is great when engine not exploding or suspension failing at somewhat critical moments. Not much use in the winter though, or for a big shopping. Even less reliable than the TVR i had. Which is high praise indeed.
Caterham 275SV. Now that they've sorted the software fault that caused it to lose power on motorways, very reliable, though limited practicality. Otherwise have you thought about an MX5???
While waiting for my Taycan I was driving a Merc ML and it kept breaking and costing money, so I thought I'd get an MX5 for a few months because it would be fun. It was not fun. Thank fvck I only had to drive it for 4 weeks because my Taycan came after a 17 month wait rather than the 19 month wait forecast. I mean I liked throwing it round corners but driving it from November to December probably not very clever.
High 5s coffee - think our Volvos are same age albeit you’ve got the better one.
Adaptive cruise control on my Korean bus is horrible, shifts to warp speed to make up any gaps that appear and tries to perform an emergency stop at 88 mph (my usual chosen cruising speed) if a car shifts lanes quarter of a mile away
Coffee do you not have a waterproof liner for the dog space? I've got a waterproof liner and cushion so Saildog travels in comfort and and can do almost anything and I don't have to worry about stains.
I want a volvo v70 (petrol) but the Mrs would hate it. Massive and difficult to park. Have a Kodiaq (FAO High Guise: L&K) now which is probably too big and for the next few years but contra Laz, I fvcking loathe the auto DSG gearbox. Absolute piece of crap. You press the accelerator and five seconds later it thinks about moving. Press it remotely hard and it's wheelspin city. Aside from that it's a brilliant car, loadsa room for kids bikes and all that crap, and can ferry around five or six kids in it when necessary (i.e. every weekend to birthday parties, it seems).
Also have an old B8 Audi s4 with the 4.2 V8. Handles like a barge. Full winter tires on it, did season in 2913 Chamoinx, best snow in 20 years, only time it spun its wheels was when the local cops where noising us up for not going fast enough from Argeniere. WHEN THERE WERE F ING SKIERS OVERTAKTAKING US ON THE ROAD.
Have an odd mix of cars. The latest firm acquisition for a London conveyance is an ancient thing with a division in full Downton Abbey. It's brilliant and can be fixed with a stern look.
My main car is a Range Rover and I get a new three year old one every three years. They are great.
Just swapped a 23-year old ford focus for a BMW i3 EV with range extender. I liked both. Neither are over-complicated, and both will be run into the ground.
The DSG is notorious for a reason. We have one. You can drive around it / teach it new tricks - to an extent.
There's a reset you can do (can't remember exact details but it was basically have ignition on, engine off, throttle to the floor for 20 secs - youtube it). That helped ours a bit.
The other thing is driving style. Ours seems to finally get the memo somewhat if you boot it (relatively speaking) out of junctions etc for a bit. It's then less dozy.
Finally if yours has switchable driving modes then sticking that in normal but the chassis control, steering in sport seemed to help a bit also.
The clutch on ours has already had to be replaced at c. 25k miles FFS. Basically whole transmission feels like it's made of treacle and spinning bits of metal. Shame as the rest of the car (Touran) is pretty decent for what it is
My favourite car is our 27 yo Honda CR-V that has now outlived my mum. Basic AF and completely worthless so I don't have to GAF about e.g. giving way when there are parked cars on both sides, and also have great fun playing chicken with the rented SUV drivers who can't seem to operate their car less than 1m away from the kerb for fear of the charges when they hand back the car they could never afford to buy outright.
Face - is the Taycan actually properly fun to drive? We been offered a ludicrous amount of money for our car (more than I paid for it 2.5 years ago which just insane) and I am a little tempted to sell it and get Taycan.
the 2024 Taycan is coming with a bigger battery and longer range, i do believe. could have been enough to tempt me into a lecckyframe, but they seem to have disappeared from my company's EV lease scheme. :(
still, the shocking residuals (by Porsche standards) mean that as a private buyer you can pick up a low-mileage 2 yr old for under £70k now. bargain!
I love it… it’s got all the power needed to tow over 3 tonnes with ease. Two horses in a float and it does it so easily you almost forget they are even there.
I can fit all the stuff I need in the tray and still carry 5 people.. with my heated leather seats keeping my ass toasty warm.
The ONLY downside is that the seats aren’t very comfortable for long distance driving. Anything over 3 hours and my back starts seizing up.
Not recommended if you need to regularly park in city sized car parks though.
Land Rover Defender (2022) - v happy with this. Can get loads of stuff in the back and v comfortable to drive
Tesla Model X (2018) - fun and fine for the majority of journeys but the charging infrastructure is still not reliable enough for longer distance driving.
DDS, yes it’s a phenomenal car. Best I’ve ever had by a long shot and I’ve got a history of some very good cars. Unbelievably quick, handling is superb, braking very impressive for a two tonne car, and very practical and sedate when it needs to be. Cabin is a lovely place to be. Will be gutted when it has to go as nothing will live up to it.
The absolute, bar-none pièce de résistance of car khuntery. Well played sir. Do you shrivel up and die of pure embarrassment when you pull up to the original defender at the lights?
Think of the biggest middle-class khvnt you personally know.
In the JLR salesroom there is a picture of the new Defender target buyer, and it’s them. Wearing red trousers and boaters and a jumper tied round their neck. Kids are called Genevieve and Henry and they go on Extinction Rebellion protests on weekends.
In the JLR salesroom there is a picture of the new Defender target buyer, and it’s them. Wearing red trousers and boaters and a jumper tied round their neck. Kids are called Genevieve and Henry and they go on Extinction Rebellion protests on weekends.
Bang out of order that you'd out me like that. Poor Genevieve and Henry will be absolutely distraught
daily driver is 1997 K11 Nissan Micra with new wiring loom and engine innards plus NOS Italian Webers. Bullet proof, quick, goes on fumes, nobody wants to steal it, sounds mega, and all the bumptious new car c***ks burst a blood vessel when i lose them on B road
When I lived in Maida Vale there was an absolutely amazing Citroen DS 21 Presidentialle which I did lèche-vitrine on every morning. Imagine having one of them and just plonking it on the street,
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Ford Focus. Pretty comfortable, decent boot space, cheap to fix, does 0-60 eventually. Can't complain.
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Ford mondeo estate.
What do you want to do in it?
What do you want to pay?
What other rrequirements do you have?
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SEAT Ateca
Got two of them. Excellent. Roomy but not too big outside. Boot takes three full size suitcases. Interior feels jnbustable and absolutely kid proof.
Advice: get the 2 litre petrol, which has plenty of go - the 1.5l is adequate but a bit thrashy like most of the modern small turbos, and doesn’t make for a great motorway car. Look for electric tailgate and parking cameras if buying secondhand. Also, they look better in bright colours.
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the auto is excellent, responsive and never obtrusive
for bulky kid-movers they drive really well with pin sharp steering
brakes a bit spongey is my only complaint about the dynamics
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I like my car. It is a Peugeot 2008. Goes like a rocket when I need it to. Small but reliable.
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I'm happy with mine. 16-yo Vauxhall Vectra estate, 2.2 petrol automatic, elite trim.
Great motorway car, great for taking stuff to the tip, great for UK holidays. ULEZ compliant.
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I would like to see all cars banned in the UK.
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are there any other really stupid things you’d like to see?
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I wish I could drive to work actually
I’d like to start a small commercial law firm out in the beltway just so I could drive to work. I’d try to have clients and make money, but driving to work would be the main point. My five minute drive to the station is usually the last enjoyable part of my day, after breakfast with the notorious rambunctious crew
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I have a Volvo V70 R D5
Its bullet proof, has a fair bit of grunt and very decent handling for its size, is very economical on long road trips and can lug loads of stuff about.
Unfortunately they stopped making them when Geely holdings took over and started their journey towards turning Volvo into yet another boring Chinese electric SUV company.
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Volvo is good
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I like their XC90 and were I in the market for an absolutely massive car it would be that or a pukka petrol Range Rover Vogue (not the sport or the velar or any of that shite).
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A Ford Mondeo Estate is practical but daughters prefer going in the other car. I might have to cave in and get something more chic.
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Heh @ amit, me too. Mine is a 2001 y reg bought as a stopgap and retained as it is entirely suitable for all my requirements (except performing a 3 point turn in a road narrower than the M6)
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It has outsides me that SUVs are rubbish. Our other car is a massive Korean 7 seater which has less room and is less comfortable than the Volvo
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BMW X1. High enough for old people to get in and out easily and happily accommodates a retriever in the boot. Also diesel so I can enjoy 47mpg until electric cars get a bit cheaper.
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Volvo was good Laz. Not anymore.
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2012 Disco and I love it. It is creaky, expensive and horrible for the polar bears, but F me it is magnificent. It does everything, elegantly. Will drive it into the ground and be heartbroken when it is gone.
Wife has a Skoda Karoq which isn't too shabby. I think it is very similar to the Seat Ateca etc, all built with a similar platform. Probably worth testing all of those and seeing which one floats your boat.
Not quite convinced to go electric yet.
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Why do you all have terrible cars, I thought you were baller lawyers?
Also V70R's are cool a V70 R-Design D5 is not (albeit still a decent car)
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BMW M340 Touring
there is no better car.
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The boot isn't as big as the Superb or the Mondeo. You'll be laughed out of the recycling centre.
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Talbot Rancho. GR8.
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Mercedes C Class convertible. I love it. My best ever car. 2nd was my last one RR Evoque (don't knock til you've driven one).
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M340 Touring is an excellent car, perfect all rounder
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Mercedes C Class convertible. I love it. My best ever car. 2nd was my last one RR Evoque (don't knock til you've driven one).
Evoque is a posh hair dressers car. It'll either break down or be stolen, just depends which happens first.
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Volvo V70XC. Abso-fvcking-lootely brilliant.
Cost next to nothing (and now worth easily twice what I paid for it 5 years ago - still not much tbh).
Goes like a bat out of hell (well, almost) when I'm looking for a gap in traffic, sits comfortably on the highway, handles shitty dirt roads very well.
Carries dog, bike, skis or any other enormous amount of stuff in the back, or 7 people at a squeeze.
One of my colleagues is insanely jealous of it.
And in 2 years it will be eligible for historic registration so I'll save 90% on rego.
But tbh I'd still love a BMW 1 Series M. Although the dog wouldn't like it as much.
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Porsche Taycan 4S. Also the best car I've ever had. On the one hand love it, and love the fact the taxpayer is paying for 45% of it. On the other hand, realise it's probably the best car I'll ever have for the same reason, and that it will be downhill from here.
It's insanely fast acceleration when you want it to be, and sporty to throw round corners, but also behaves like a normal family car with two boot spaces of decent size when you want sedate. Range is good, so gateway drug to all-electric cars in future. Also would never go back from automatic cruise control, which is so stress-relieving on commutes / motorway trips.
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Can you get a dog in the boot of a taycan?
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Taycan is pretty cool tbf
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Maybe you could fit a dog in the back of a Taycan.
But if the dog puked chocolate vomit in the back of a Taycan, you'd pull over so you could desperately try to mop it up, meanwhile poor old Fido would die.
Whereas in my 23 year old Volvo wagon, when the dog puked chocolate vomit I felt no qualms about letting the stain set while we continued on to the vet.
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Caterham 7 CSR. Is great when engine not exploding or suspension failing at somewhat critical moments. Not much use in the winter though, or for a big shopping. Even less reliable than the TVR i had. Which is high praise indeed.
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Only if sedated or dead, because it's a saloon boot.
OMG a Caterham. I've driven a few and got to do a few laps in a 620S. I SO want one of those, but never going toi happen.
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adaptive cruise control is indeed the absolute best. would never buy another car without it.
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Caterham 275SV. Now that they've sorted the software fault that caused it to lose power on motorways, very reliable, though limited practicality. Otherwise have you thought about an MX5???
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Just got a Changan CX70T as my old (2011 build) Subaru Forester failed its annual inspection.
Very large and roomy, 1.5L turbo engine. Doesn't exactly get the heart racing but suits my needs and pocket. S'OK.
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While waiting for my Taycan I was driving a Merc ML and it kept breaking and costing money, so I thought I'd get an MX5 for a few months because it would be fun. It was not fun. Thank fvck I only had to drive it for 4 weeks because my Taycan came after a 17 month wait rather than the 19 month wait forecast. I mean I liked throwing it round corners but driving it from November to December probably not very clever.
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High 5s coffee - think our Volvos are same age albeit you’ve got the better one.
Adaptive cruise control on my Korean bus is horrible, shifts to warp speed to make up any gaps that appear and tries to perform an emergency stop at 88 mph (my usual chosen cruising speed) if a car shifts lanes quarter of a mile away
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Coffee do you not have a waterproof liner for the dog space? I've got a waterproof liner and cushion so Saildog travels in comfort and and can do almost anything and I don't have to worry about stains.
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ludicrously fast wagons are your friends here.
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State of this.
Happy though to report that my Chinese EV beats the Taycan 4S to 60mph.
🫶🏻
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I heart Kimmy
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Kimmy just pretends to drive a 16yo Vauxhall Estate for the kudos. It's actually a Chinese EV that does 0-60 in 3 secs but no one would admit to that.
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Mrs Hall has an lovely old Brooklands Green MGB GT convertible that is occasionally brought out of the garage in high summer.
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Why don't you swap if for one of those nice new Chinese electric MGs as a birthday surprise.
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I love analogue mechanical cars
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I want a volvo v70 (petrol) but the Mrs would hate it. Massive and difficult to park. Have a Kodiaq (FAO High Guise: L&K) now which is probably too big and for the next few years but contra Laz, I fvcking loathe the auto DSG gearbox. Absolute piece of crap. You press the accelerator and five seconds later it thinks about moving. Press it remotely hard and it's wheelspin city. Aside from that it's a brilliant car, loadsa room for kids bikes and all that crap, and can ferry around five or six kids in it when necessary (i.e. every weekend to birthday parties, it seems).
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aw... I heart you too, threeepwood
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Also have an old B8 Audi s4 with the 4.2 V8. Handles like a barge. Full winter tires on it, did season in 2913 Chamoinx, best snow in 20 years, only time it spun its wheels was when the local cops where noising us up for not going fast enough from Argeniere. WHEN THERE WERE F ING SKIERS OVERTAKTAKING US ON THE ROAD.
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a Caterham appeals
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Have an odd mix of cars. The latest firm acquisition for a London conveyance is an ancient thing with a division in full Downton Abbey. It's brilliant and can be fixed with a stern look.
My main car is a Range Rover and I get a new three year old one every three years. They are great.
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Just swapped a 23-year old ford focus for a BMW i3 EV with range extender. I liked both. Neither are over-complicated, and both will be run into the ground.
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Yeah, this is a real issue with light petrol engines in FWD VAG cars with dsg. Completely bipolar behaviour of throttle and gearbox.
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Just get a Lexus NX, not in F- Sport trim.
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I’m thinking about a 2012 bmw 520i series 5 with 90,000 miles on clock.
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BMW X3 and Nissan LEAF
Both are great. The LEAF is our main car, and the whip in which the hound rides at dawn.
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A lot of gash motors above. Is no one else here minted?
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The DSG is notorious for a reason. We have one. You can drive around it / teach it new tricks - to an extent.
There's a reset you can do (can't remember exact details but it was basically have ignition on, engine off, throttle to the floor for 20 secs - youtube it). That helped ours a bit.
The other thing is driving style. Ours seems to finally get the memo somewhat if you boot it (relatively speaking) out of junctions etc for a bit. It's then less dozy.
Finally if yours has switchable driving modes then sticking that in normal but the chassis control, steering in sport seemed to help a bit also.
The clutch on ours has already had to be replaced at c. 25k miles FFS. Basically whole transmission feels like it's made of treacle and spinning bits of metal. Shame as the rest of the car (Touran) is pretty decent for what it is
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I had that DSG gearbox on a 3.2l V6 Audi TT and two 2.0l Audi TTSs and they were things of beauty! How come they're so shit on other cars?
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I have one of these on a Golf and it's been costly.
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Are you guys forgetting to service it properly, hmmmm???
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My favourite car is our 27 yo Honda CR-V that has now outlived my mum. Basic AF and completely worthless so I don't have to GAF about e.g. giving way when there are parked cars on both sides, and also have great fun playing chicken with the rented SUV drivers who can't seem to operate their car less than 1m away from the kerb for fear of the charges when they hand back the car they could never afford to buy outright.
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On mine the fvcking thing resets back to 'normal' mode every time you turn the ignition off.
Think it's fine with high-powered engines and 4x4s.
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First World Throblems
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Face - is the Taycan actually properly fun to drive? We been offered a ludicrous amount of money for our car (more than I paid for it 2.5 years ago which just insane) and I am a little tempted to sell it and get Taycan.
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what is it, OP?
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the 2024 Taycan is coming with a bigger battery and longer range, i do believe. could have been enough to tempt me into a lecckyframe, but they seem to have disappeared from my company's EV lease scheme. :(
still, the shocking residuals (by Porsche standards) mean that as a private buyer you can pick up a low-mileage 2 yr old for under £70k now. bargain!
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Ford Ranger Wildtrax with full towing kit.
I love it… it’s got all the power needed to tow over 3 tonnes with ease. Two horses in a float and it does it so easily you almost forget they are even there.
I can fit all the stuff I need in the tray and still carry 5 people.. with my heated leather seats keeping my ass toasty warm.
The ONLY downside is that the seats aren’t very comfortable for long distance driving. Anything over 3 hours and my back starts seizing up.
Not recommended if you need to regularly park in city sized car parks though.
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Land Rover Defender (2022) - v happy with this. Can get loads of stuff in the back and v comfortable to drive
Tesla Model X (2018) - fun and fine for the majority of journeys but the charging infrastructure is still not reliable enough for longer distance driving.
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DDS, yes it’s a phenomenal car. Best I’ve ever had by a long shot and I’ve got a history of some very good cars. Unbelievably quick, handling is superb, braking very impressive for a two tonne car, and very practical and sedate when it needs to be. Cabin is a lovely place to be. Will be gutted when it has to go as nothing will live up to it.
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The absolute, bar-none pièce de résistance of car khuntery. Well played sir. Do you shrivel up and die of pure embarrassment when you pull up to the original defender at the lights?
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heh - nope. I love it. It's a much better looking car than the original Defender but far less able in terms of the offroading capability.
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Think of the biggest middle-class khvnt you personally know.
In the JLR salesroom there is a picture of the new Defender target buyer, and it’s them. Wearing red trousers and boaters and a jumper tied round their neck. Kids are called Genevieve and Henry and they go on Extinction Rebellion protests on weekends.
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I guess it's true that there's no accounting for taste
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Bang out of order that you'd out me like that. Poor Genevieve and Henry will be absolutely distraught
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daily driver is 1997 K11 Nissan Micra with new wiring loom and engine innards plus NOS Italian Webers. Bullet proof, quick, goes on fumes, nobody wants to steal it, sounds mega, and all the bumptious new car c***ks burst a blood vessel when i lose them on B road
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Love it. There's a great condition 1988 Peugeot 205 Rallye that street parks near me, I think it's the car I'm most jealous of.
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When I lived in Maida Vale there was an absolutely amazing Citroen DS 21 Presidentialle which I did lèche-vitrine on every morning. Imagine having one of them and just plonking it on the street,
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Not really a fan of classic cars (other than ofc the Astin Martin DB5) but I am liking the car that Lord Horniman drives in The Gentlemen
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Abarth!
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Quite fancy a yellow MG Cyberster as it goes.
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