I mean I doubt many truckers will be particularly inclined to come here on a shitty visa with better money being offered closer to home, but I don't think western European unionised drivers are who they were trying to attract or who was working here before anyway.
There's a video on Twitter of some Channel 4 journo asking the presumed German chancellor if he would send HGV drivers to help Britain.
I mean wtf? Germany's got its own HGV driver problems and even if it didn't and the UK was still in the EU, what would this have to do with the Chancellor of Germany?
The "bwitane smol bean pwease help us pwease" syndrome is as mad.
Pietor et al might be prepared to do a few months if the price was right. I don't see the issue with having an end point - the idea would be for them to come as contractors then leave when their contract has finished. Same as a Brit doing a contract overseas usually leaves when the contract is over.
What pancakes said. The level of narcissism on the part of the British media and a large chunk of the population has reached insane proportions.
If I hear another person at the school gate saying "we're the fifth richest country in the world, we should be able to do X" I swear I will turn around to them and ask them how much tax and NI they paid last year and the previous year and the year before that and then ask who else they think should pay for the latest pet cause of theirs.
Having xmas eve as the cut off seems a leetle bit short termist though Crypto... Particularly given the UK immigration/visa service is one of the slowest and most useless I have ever dealt with and I have been to some right crap holes for work in my time. They'll be lucky if they have even got the system up and running by bonfire night I reckon...
Yes but Crypto when one is employed on a short term contract, you are meant to get paid significantly more than you would normally to make it worth your while, not less...
Maybe, Donny, I'll admit that. I guess the logic is to get people to cover the silly season between now and Xmas and then once demand drops in January the industry will have caught up with UK drivers being trained and on the road.
The level of narcissism on the part of the British media and a large chunk of the population has reached insane proportions.
The maddening thing about it is the narcissism is completely duplicated on both sides of the argument. Brexiteers think the UK is uniquely brilliant and a breed apart from its neighbours, the FBPEs that the UK is uniquely pathetic and unable to function without European validation of everything. Both completely united in their conviction that the world cares about us approximately a thousand times more than it actually does.
This guy is a lorry driver and seems to know what he is talking about, albeit through a remainiac lens. He doesn't seem that confident many EEs will be coming.
It is in the nature of truck driving to be away from home for extended periods. If EE drivers can make money driving here for the next few months than they can elsewhere then they will come. I wouldn’t be against waiving NIC for drivers and their employees for a fee months if that helps. Longer term the priority has to be training more domestic workers and seeing if their is any red tape that can be cut.
I also agree with Pancakes. Like everything else these days, people want to line up wit their teams and pretend everything is black and white / good vs evil. It’s tedious.
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This story struck me as odd.
I mean I doubt many truckers will be particularly inclined to come here on a shitty visa with better money being offered closer to home, but I don't think western European unionised drivers are who they were trying to attract or who was working here before anyway.
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There's a video on Twitter of some Channel 4 journo asking the presumed German chancellor if he would send HGV drivers to help Britain.
I mean wtf? Germany's got its own HGV driver problems and even if it didn't and the UK was still in the EU, what would this have to do with the Chancellor of Germany?
The "bwitane smol bean pwease help us pwease" syndrome is as mad.
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Pancakes all round it is not good news, and was inevitable. Things are going to get much worse I fear.
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Pietor et al might be prepared to do a few months if the price was right. I don't see the issue with having an end point - the idea would be for them to come as contractors then leave when their contract has finished. Same as a Brit doing a contract overseas usually leaves when the contract is over.
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What pancakes said. The level of narcissism on the part of the British media and a large chunk of the population has reached insane proportions.
If I hear another person at the school gate saying "we're the fifth richest country in the world, we should be able to do X" I swear I will turn around to them and ask them how much tax and NI they paid last year and the previous year and the year before that and then ask who else they think should pay for the latest pet cause of theirs.
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Having xmas eve as the cut off seems a leetle bit short termist though Crypto... Particularly given the UK immigration/visa service is one of the slowest and most useless I have ever dealt with and I have been to some right crap holes for work in my time. They'll be lucky if they have even got the system up and running by bonfire night I reckon...
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Yes but Crypto when one is employed on a short term contract, you are meant to get paid significantly more than you would normally to make it worth your while, not less...
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this is market forces - if you pay HGV drivers from the EU €10k per day, they'll do it.
the price of sovrinty, innit?
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Maybe, Donny, I'll admit that. I guess the logic is to get people to cover the silly season between now and Xmas and then once demand drops in January the industry will have caught up with UK drivers being trained and on the road.
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This means barricades of lorries at the ports of northern france right?
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Crypto how long does it take to train an HGV Class 1 driver? maybe a few months I imagine...
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The level of narcissism on the part of the British media and a large chunk of the population has reached insane proportions.
The maddening thing about it is the narcissism is completely duplicated on both sides of the argument. Brexiteers think the UK is uniquely brilliant and a breed apart from its neighbours, the FBPEs that the UK is uniquely pathetic and unable to function without European validation of everything. Both completely united in their conviction that the world cares about us approximately a thousand times more than it actually does.
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@pancakes Perfectly put. I could not agree more.
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https://twitter.com/thelorryist?lang=en
This guy is a lorry driver and seems to know what he is talking about, albeit through a remainiac lens. He doesn't seem that confident many EEs will be coming.
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No sh!t Sherlock.
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Will the government coax retired drivers out of retirement like they did with doctors and nurses last year?
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It is in the nature of truck driving to be away from home for extended periods. If EE drivers can make money driving here for the next few months than they can elsewhere then they will come. I wouldn’t be against waiving NIC for drivers and their employees for a fee months if that helps. Longer term the priority has to be training more domestic workers and seeing if their is any red tape that can be cut.
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I also agree with Pancakes. Like everything else these days, people want to line up wit their teams and pretend everything is black and white / good vs evil. It’s tedious.
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who could have predicted this?
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