Chesterton thought it might be worth hanging on for art and for beauty ... and in case you missed witnessing the bloody downfall of your enemies by just that one day.
Fame with limited talent. What a terrible curse. Each night singing Let me entertain you and those other hits. Relying on pills and alcohol to take the edge off that imposter feeling. He used to slit his wrists from time to time. In an introspective mood I run through the chords of Angel at the piano in a jazzy style. The changes are rather nice. Not quite the way he does it. There must be a need for people like me in cocktail lounges. Swing when you're winning.
From a central London based high stress one (company taken over , complete shit show and basically all my team ended up leaving ) to a rural one with alot of remote working (to the extent that culturally it's kind of lacking), but also quite corporate /high stress
I tend to think all jobs are shyt nowadays , the idea of the workplace as a fun place /where you might meet new people and make friends seems dead as a dodo. It's just a paycheck now and that's it . I pity the young as this is their life from early 20s now if they do office jobs basically .
If you don't settle down with someone in school or higher ed years and aren't an attractive /media savvy "online dating person" then you're basically fvcked now.
Love the way the thread is now half about my depression and half about Robbie Williams .
It was set up that way but normally the side topic gets discarded
RW's not out and is married but I did see an interview once saying he's now a "marriedcel" and basically never has sechs with his wife which did make me wonder if he's gay on the side . Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest
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Book club conjures up images of middle aged women in cat jumpers . I think in general socializing in 2024 is a hostile environment for men , most people my age are already settled down /married /kids maybe /in a completely different place in life .
Gaga - one of the couples who me and my wife are closest with were part of the same NCT group that we joined in 2012. It would have been easy to dismiss NCT classes based on any number of images it conjures up (and many of them are valid).
One of the benefits of expat lifestyles is that most people open up their social circles more readily. People come and go so if you’re not willing to meet and develop friendships with new people, you end up with a very small group of friends.
May be being happy doesn't matter and what matters is how much good you can do for other every day - wash the feet of the poor etc as that is probably morally better than sitting at home feeling fed up, if nothing will make you happy ever then making other people happy may be a good course of action.
There is a point in a life when the things that ordinarily light the lamps stops doing so. There is no rule as to when. We all have to work through that. Some never get there. Others arrive at various stages of realisation. Various things stop driving you:-
ambition
Ego
Obligation
Fear
Hunger
Urgency
Desire
Love
Lust
Wealth
Shame
Envy
Whatever it is, eventually a big hunger develops for nourishment of the soul. The soul does not get its nourishment from the same food as the above list. Everything reverses. The more you can do for others the better you feel. The more you grapple with the things that made you strong in the past or that drove you forward the more of a desert you find your are in. Move to making the world around your better. You’ll fit better in it.
"I tend to think all jobs are shyt nowadays , the idea of the workplace as a fun place /where you might meet new people and make friends seems dead as a dodo. It's just a paycheck now and that's it . I pity the young as this is their life from early 20s now if they do office jobs basically . "
There is I think some truth in this, hybrid working for better or worse is killing off work as more than a pay check. When I was training and in my early years some of my best friends were made at work groups of us went on holiday together, we attended each others birthdays weddings and other events. Obviously that changes as one gets older but I dont see younger colleagues bonding in that way these days.
Yep, I agree with Lydia on that too. Helping other people, it’ll give you a greater sense of self worth, and move your gaze outward. That’s got to be helpful, and there must be something you can do.
I run through the chords of Angel at the piano in a jazzy style. The changes are rather nice. Not quite the way he does it. There must be a need for people like me in cocktail lounges
Richard Cheese got there some time before you but I'd recommend listening to some stuff to cheer you up, the sheer absolute wrongness of his lounge version of Sunday Bloody Sunday for starters.
What a great song. It really encapsulates the frustration of a Sunday, doesn't it? You wake up in the morning, you've got to read all the Sunday papers, the kids are running round, you've got to mow the lawn, wash the car, and you think "Sunday, bloody Sunday!"
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Things can only get better
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Chesterton thought it might be worth hanging on for art and for beauty ... and in case you missed witnessing the bloody downfall of your enemies by just that one day.
https://poetrycatalog.com/a-ballade-of-suicide-gk-chesterton/
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Stupid Robbie went through some dark times too.
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Privileged celebrity dark times though
The kind where you get to shag around and have tons of cash . Dark time usually involves excess of this lifestyle
I'd choose that dark time over mine any day of the week. Mine is just boring
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Do you find any enjoyment in books? Art? Film?
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Plenty in books and film and TV too
Not much of an art fan but I do love Dali
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Did you change job yet m8?
The way you described your job it sounded v depressing
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Is it not worth hanging around to consume as much stuff you enjoy as possible?
I say this in most of your threads but have you started lifting heavy weights yet? It would change your life in so many ways.
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Fame with limited talent. What a terrible curse. Each night singing Let me entertain you and those other hits. Relying on pills and alcohol to take the edge off that imposter feeling. He used to slit his wrists from time to time. In an introspective mood I run through the chords of Angel at the piano in a jazzy style. The changes are rather nice. Not quite the way he does it. There must be a need for people like me in cocktail lounges. Swing when you're winning.
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I changed job last year .
From a central London based high stress one (company taken over , complete shit show and basically all my team ended up leaving ) to a rural one with alot of remote working (to the extent that culturally it's kind of lacking), but also quite corporate /high stress
I tend to think all jobs are shyt nowadays , the idea of the workplace as a fun place /where you might meet new people and make friends seems dead as a dodo. It's just a paycheck now and that's it . I pity the young as this is their life from early 20s now if they do office jobs basically .
If you don't settle down with someone in school or higher ed years and aren't an attractive /media savvy "online dating person" then you're basically fvcked now.
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Guy Chambers was the main talent behind all the iconic RW songs.
He was a good front man for a few years but it went to his head. Rock DJ remains one of the worst records ever made ...
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People lose all sense of interest in exercise and art and life when they are ultra depressed.
Do you have someone you can talk to at all?
Also mate you are not the only person who has had something like this. And yes it is horrible
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I always assumed Robbie's songs came from his truth
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‘Rock DJ remains one of the worst records ever made ...’
Hard agree and it was fvcking everywhere as well
‘Let Me Entertain You’ and ‘Millenium’ were dreadful too, so fvcking basic
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Swing When You're Winning is a decent karaoke effort.
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RW does write the lyrics from his own truths
Not given enough credit as a songwriter due to lazy assumption that it was all Guy Chambers
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“I don't wanna die”
Focus on this and the reason why. There must be something you enjoy. What is it?
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I see you said books and film. Have you looked for a book or film club? Could be a good way to meet people. That could lead to more socialising
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Is RW actually out now? Were any of his kids born en vagine? An odd tale all round. Enough already.
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Love the way the thread is now half about my depression and half about Robbie Williams .
It was set up that way but normally the side topic gets discarded
RW's not out and is married but I did see an interview once saying he's now a "marriedcel" and basically never has sechs with his wife which did make me wonder if he's gay on the side . Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest
Switch to other topic
Book club conjures up images of middle aged women in cat jumpers . I think in general socializing in 2024 is a hostile environment for men , most people my age are already settled down /married /kids maybe /in a completely different place in life .
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What's wrong with cat jumpers?
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Gaga - one of the couples who me and my wife are closest with were part of the same NCT group that we joined in 2012. It would have been easy to dismiss NCT classes based on any number of images it conjures up (and many of them are valid).
One of the benefits of expat lifestyles is that most people open up their social circles more readily. People come and go so if you’re not willing to meet and develop friendships with new people, you end up with a very small group of friends.
Ever thought of a stint abroad?
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Come on then Clergs
What book are we reading this week ?
I warn you though , I am one who tends to ditch books if I'm not engaged 100 pages in
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May be being happy doesn't matter and what matters is how much good you can do for other every day - wash the feet of the poor etc as that is probably morally better than sitting at home feeling fed up, if nothing will make you happy ever then making other people happy may be a good course of action.
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Lydia is right about this.
There is a point in a life when the things that ordinarily light the lamps stops doing so. There is no rule as to when. We all have to work through that. Some never get there. Others arrive at various stages of realisation. Various things stop driving you:-
Whatever it is, eventually a big hunger develops for nourishment of the soul. The soul does not get its nourishment from the same food as the above list. Everything reverses. The more you can do for others the better you feel. The more you grapple with the things that made you strong in the past or that drove you forward the more of a desert you find your are in. Move to making the world around your better. You’ll fit better in it.
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I’d say quoting a Robbie Williams song to sum up your emotions on ROF has to be a pretty good example
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"I tend to think all jobs are shyt nowadays , the idea of the workplace as a fun place /where you might meet new people and make friends seems dead as a dodo. It's just a paycheck now and that's it . I pity the young as this is their life from early 20s now if they do office jobs basically . "
There is I think some truth in this, hybrid working for better or worse is killing off work as more than a pay check. When I was training and in my early years some of my best friends were made at work groups of us went on holiday together, we attended each others birthdays weddings and other events. Obviously that changes as one gets older but I dont see younger colleagues bonding in that way these days.
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Some are
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Yep, I agree with Lydia on that too. Helping other people, it’ll give you a greater sense of self worth, and move your gaze outward. That’s got to be helpful, and there must be something you can do.
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I run through the chords of Angel at the piano in a jazzy style. The changes are rather nice. Not quite the way he does it. There must be a need for people like me in cocktail lounges
Richard Cheese got there some time before you but I'd recommend listening to some stuff to cheer you up, the sheer absolute wrongness of his lounge version of Sunday Bloody Sunday for starters.
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What a great song. It really encapsulates the frustration of a Sunday, doesn't it? You wake up in the morning, you've got to read all the Sunday papers, the kids are running round, you've got to mow the lawn, wash the car, and you think "Sunday, bloody Sunday!"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f79SZgUgHBQ
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