no compo - or at least means test it - that demo can bear some of the same unfairness and pain that the students have had to with the changes to the SLC interest rates and payment mechanics.
The waspi person on the today programme wanted £10 k each. I’ve not looked into whether they have what ie oils consider a real grievance but clearly the nonsense of different retirement ages couldn’t go on forever
CBA reading the Ombudsman's report just yet but they had the benefit of an unjustified discriminatory position for years, and then even on their own case had at least a decade's notice it would change, for many of them way more than a decade. Mental.
Sharp was 57 when she found out what was going to happen [in ~2015]. A friend who had turned 60 had been told that she could not claim the state pension yet. “I had thought retirement was on the horizon. My financial adviser had shown me forecasts based on my state pension age being 60 — that was the extent of the misinformation out there,” she said. “I never saw a letter from the Department for Work and Pensions about my state pension age going up.”
Sounds like she should be suing her financial advisor, not the government.
i find this whole thing deeply weird. there was years of notice. once complainant lost hundreds of thousands because they retired at the wrong age and didn't think to check the retirement age.
As a group they are not strongly deserving of support. They could have got jobs. They will get more from the state than those who currently work ever do.
When it comes to compensation, the public tend to forget that when you hand out billions to one group - the tax payer is funding it and it means there’s likely another group that misses out.
If they suffered age discrimination in the job market they should have sued. It can’t be that they resigned at 59 and 364 days and then realised they weren’t going to get their state pension
i think any compensation is just for mal-administration (ie a few thousand a pop at worst) rather than compensation for lack of pension form change in law.
luckily it will be the young working tax payers who get to pay this out. they just love the intergenerational transfers that keep on happening (and which an attempt to reduce so infuriated the waspi women)
Please spare a thought for innocent victims like Mrs R, who was relying on this money to fund the cost of running her three homes. We must tax the under-40s harder so that these innocent victims get what is rightfully theirs.
Fairly sure that labour made a pledge in their 2019 manifesto to compensate ‘victims’ of the change in the rules and as we know they were soundly defeated
So presumably that settles the matter for a generation
It’s basic sexism - women should get special treatment, women should be treated like children, women can’t be expected to make sensible financial decisions so need handouts.
Women can and do earn their own money and have for years now and they should be treated like responsible adults with full mental capacity. If they made bad financial choices so be it.
I don't understand how these women turned a financial try-on to what seems to have been accepted as a bona fide campaign for justice. WTAF?
Can someone put the case for them in a sensible way? Surely there must be a credible argument why they are right, else this wouldn't have got anywhere?
the law changed in 1995 with the pension age being brought forward from 15 to 25 years later (2010 to 2020)
some women did not receive letters to notify them of this change for years, but it must have clearly been a very significant piece of legislation at the time which received news attention
those same women also did not bother, between 1995 and 2010, to check the retirement age or to consult any financial advisors accordingly
in 2011, the Tories brought forward the change to 65 by two years to 2018, so giving 7 years of notice
again some of these women did not bother to check re: the changes
said women then chose to retire voluntarily early, before checking whether they are actually entitled to receive their pensions, based on their assumptions which dated at least to 1994 if not earlier
Another joke from Marshall. The waspi women are the epitome of parasite class mentality. “The young people and immigrants should pay for us.” The same mentality that has millions of people claiming benefits because mental health.
What comedians these people are. Anyone I know who has retired has planned it for years including getting advice from IFAs/unions/employer pension departments/etc. Who retires without knowing the details of their pension?
Why on earth should they be compensated for their own lack of research?
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no compo - or at least means test it - that demo can bear some of the same unfairness and pain that the students have had to with the changes to the SLC interest rates and payment mechanics.
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The waspi person on the today programme wanted £10 k each. I’ve not looked into whether they have what ie oils consider a real grievance but clearly the nonsense of different retirement ages couldn’t go on forever
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How much muttley?
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The waspi on Today had apparently been living under a rock.
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CBA reading the Ombudsman's report just yet but they had the benefit of an unjustified discriminatory position for years, and then even on their own case had at least a decade's notice it would change, for many of them way more than a decade. Mental.
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From a recent explainer article in the TImes:
Sharp was 57 when she found out what was going to happen [in ~2015]. A friend who had turned 60 had been told that she could not claim the state pension yet. “I had thought retirement was on the horizon. My financial adviser had shown me forecasts based on my state pension age being 60 — that was the extent of the misinformation out there,” she said. “I never saw a letter from the Department for Work and Pensions about my state pension age going up.”
Sounds like she should be suing her financial advisor, not the government.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/waspi-women-news-state-pension-compe…
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Other People’s Money
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Sounds like she is 1 of the 80% of the UK public that are retards about pension saving. It's unbelievable that dipsticks like this get bailed out.
"Oh sorry I don't have time to adjust!"
"You could just not serve your resignation notice?"
"NO TIME TO ADJUST!!!!!"
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England is mine and it owes me a pension
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i find this whole thing deeply weird. there was years of notice. once complainant lost hundreds of thousands because they retired at the wrong age and didn't think to check the retirement age.
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As a group they are not strongly deserving of support. They could have got jobs. They will get more from the state than those who currently work ever do.
When it comes to compensation, the public tend to forget that when you hand out billions to one group - the tax payer is funding it and it means there’s likely another group that misses out.
If they suffered age discrimination in the job market they should have sued. It can’t be that they resigned at 59 and 364 days and then realised they weren’t going to get their state pension
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i think any compensation is just for mal-administration (ie a few thousand a pop at worst) rather than compensation for lack of pension form change in law.
luckily it will be the young working tax payers who get to pay this out. they just love the intergenerational transfers that keep on happening (and which an attempt to reduce so infuriated the waspi women)
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Please spare a thought for innocent victims like Mrs R, who was relying on this money to fund the cost of running her three homes. We must tax the under-40s harder so that these innocent victims get what is rightfully theirs.
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Mrs R presumably was silent on the uplift in value of her cottage
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It’s not as if most of these people had real jobs anyway.
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It’s spring, and Sir Keir’s magic money tree is putting out strong new green shoots.
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Waspi headache for starmer
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heh, even the most ardent meatshields accept the Tories are on the way out
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Fairly sure that labour made a pledge in their 2019 manifesto to compensate ‘victims’ of the change in the rules and as we know they were soundly defeated
So presumably that settles the matter for a generation
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Clubman, a few thousand a pop = a massive tax bill. There are lots of women with a potential claim
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More boomers looking to extract more money from younger generations. Human parasites.
Wasn't there a court case over this that these people lost? How many bites of the cherry do they want?
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It’s basic sexism - women should get special treatment, women should be treated like children, women can’t be expected to make sensible financial decisions so need handouts.
Women can and do earn their own money and have for years now and they should be treated like responsible adults with full mental capacity. If they made bad financial choices so be it.
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I don't understand how these women turned a financial try-on to what seems to have been accepted as a bona fide campaign for justice. WTAF?
Can someone put the case for them in a sensible way? Surely there must be a credible argument why they are right, else this wouldn't have got anywhere?
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nobody here by the posts of it!
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Mostly white middle class women.
Exactly the target demographic of both major parties.
They will get paid out.
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So:
How did the Ombudsman find in their favour?!
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If they win the argument for compensation, do the women who researched their retirement properly and worked years longer to compensate get nothing?
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That’s always the way. Who paid for ppi payouts? All of us in higher bank charges
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Exactly, Medium. Menkal.
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And who gives a fvck what an Ombudsman thinks anyway?
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13229861/Labours-promises-WASPI-women-come-haunt-campaigners-demand-Sir-Keir-Starmer-honour-past-pledges-compensation-win-election.html
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Medium nails it. It’s absurd. The government didn’t write to me to tell me about the change in SDLT or income tax. I want compo.
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Lol @ ‘demanding’ labour honours a GE pledge from an election they lost
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How many of these entitled old fvcks cheered Boris on like cretinous seals? Sucks to be u
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So much misogyny and ageism on here from FF.
Do better.
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Another joke from Marshall. The waspi women are the epitome of parasite class mentality. “The young people and immigrants should pay for us.” The same mentality that has millions of people claiming benefits because mental health.
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Not many of them foal, corbyn promised to compensate them
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That demographic overwhelmingly voted for Boris in 2019. And now they want to implement the losing manifesto?
They won, get over it
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What comedians these people are. Anyone I know who has retired has planned it for years including getting advice from IFAs/unions/employer pension departments/etc. Who retires without knowing the details of their pension?
Why on earth should they be compensated for their own lack of research?
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All must have pensions
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